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	== Lectures ==		<div class="section" id="Lectures" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>

	=== Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972\|Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972]]:''' Their proposition is that this consciousness is a symptom of combination of matter. That is Buddhist philosophy. They do not accept the existence of soul.</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972\|Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972]]:''' Their proposition is that this consciousness is a symptom of combination of matter. That is Buddhist philosophy. They do not accept the existence of soul.</div>
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	== Conversations and Morning Walks ==		<div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>

	=== 1973 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles\|Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles]]:'''		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles\|Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles]]:'''

	Prabhupāda: The Māyāvādī philosopher says, the Buddha philosopher says, that "Stop this free will, and then you become happy." But our proposition is not to stop free will but purify free will. Purify. Not stop these eyes. Just if it is suffering from cataract, cure that cataract. Keep the eyes. And their proposition, "Get out these eyes and throw it. Then there will be no more seeing what is right and wrong." That is their proposition. Nirviśeṣa-vādī. Nirviśeṣa means no speciality, no varieties. That is nirviśeṣa. And śūnya, zero. When it is zero, then there is no question of right and wrong. So our philosophy is not that. There is no zero, and there is no varieties.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: The Māyāvādī philosopher says, the Buddha philosopher says, that "Stop this free will, and then you become happy." But our proposition is not to stop free will but purify free will. Purify. Not stop these eyes. Just if it is suffering from cataract, cure that cataract. Keep the eyes. And their proposition, "Get out these eyes and throw it. Then there will be no more seeing what is right and wrong." That is their proposition. Nirviśeṣa-vādī. Nirviśeṣa means no speciality, no varieties. That is nirviśeṣa. And śūnya, zero. When it is zero, then there is no question of right and wrong. So our philosophy is not that. There is no zero, and there is no varieties.</div>
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	=== 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay\|Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay]]:'''		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay\|Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay]]:'''

	Prabhupāda: That they know. This is preliminary. Kṛṣṇa is everywhere. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Not like... Not like the Ārya-samājhis: "Kṛṣṇa is everywhere except in the temple."		Prabhupāda: That they know. This is preliminary. Kṛṣṇa is everywhere. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Not like... Not like the Ārya-samājhis: "Kṛṣṇa is everywhere except in the temple."
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	Dr. Patel: You have to create a temple within you, then seat Kṛṣṇa there.		Dr. Patel: You have to create a temple within you, then seat Kṛṣṇa there.

	Prabhupāda: No, whatever it may be, their proposition is "Kṛṣṇa is everywhere, but not in this temple." "Don't go to the temple." That is their proposition.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: No, whatever it may be, their proposition is "Kṛṣṇa is everywhere, but not in this temple." "Don't go to the temple." That is their proposition.</div>
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	=== 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu\|Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu]]:'''		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu\|Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu]]:'''

	Devotee: [break] ...the universe was created five to ten billion years ago. Do we agree with their proposition, or...?		Devotee: [break] ...the universe was created five to ten billion years ago. Do we agree with their proposition, or...?
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	Devotee: They say that this universe was created five to ten billion years ago. Do we agree with that proposition, or...?		Devotee: They say that this universe was created five to ten billion years ago. Do we agree with that proposition, or...?

	Prabhupāda: Where it was before? (indistinct) Or gas?</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: Where it was before? (indistinct) Or gas?</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~CON~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu\|Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu]]:'''		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu\|Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu]]:'''

	Prabhupāda: If you say the clerk, "Sir, I did not know that by committing this act how I shall be, I will have to be punished." That is not excuse. Your ignorance they do not believe; you must go. That is the law. It is called foolishness. "They believe," "I think," "It may be." This is science. This is their proposition: "It may be," "I think," "I believe." What is the value of this? And everywhere you'll find all these philosophers, scientists, and they'll talk like this, nonsense: "I believe," "It may be." Believe in the words of Kṛṣṇa. But he believes himself. You see? Kṛṣṇa says it is this. That he doesn't believe. But he has become more than Kṛṣṇa, he'll believe something is correct. This is his foolishness. Mūḍha.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: If you say the clerk, "Sir, I did not know that by committing this act how I shall be, I will have to be punished." That is not excuse. Your ignorance they do not believe; you must go. That is the law. It is called foolishness. "They believe," "I think," "It may be." This is science. This is their proposition: "It may be," "I think," "I believe." What is the value of this? And everywhere you'll find all these philosophers, scientists, and they'll talk like this, nonsense: "I believe," "It may be." Believe in the words of Kṛṣṇa. But he believes himself. You see? Kṛṣṇa says it is this. That he doesn't believe. But he has become more than Kṛṣṇa, he'll believe something is correct. This is his foolishness. Mūḍha.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~CON~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.\|Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]:'''		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C." link_text="Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.\|Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]:'''

	Prabhupāda: They are right. They may present the wrong thing, but still they are right.		Prabhupāda: They are right. They may present the wrong thing, but still they are right.
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	Svarūpa Dāmodara: It is possible, but that's why we're claiming that. They agree that because not only there is several facts in science, that one should be (indistinct) this is true, then suddenly by some new discoveries came out all wrong.		Svarūpa Dāmodara: It is possible, but that's why we're claiming that. They agree that because not only there is several facts in science, that one should be (indistinct) this is true, then suddenly by some new discoveries came out all wrong.

	Prabhupāda: Yes.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: Yes.</div>
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	=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON~~-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara\|Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]:'''		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara\|Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]:'''

	Prabhupāda: That's all right. That's all right. But you cannot say that He does not come to showing mercy to a prophet. He may come if He likes. That is mission. Paritrāṇāya sādhūnām [Bg. 4.8]. One who is actually devotee, prophet, he's always anxious to see what they (indistinct). So in order to favor them, (Sanskrit). What is their proposition?</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: That's all right. That's all right. But you cannot say that He does not come to showing mercy to a prophet. He may come if He likes. That is mission. Paritrāṇāya sādhūnām [Bg. 4.8]. One who is actually devotee, prophet, he's always anxious to see what they (indistinct). So in order to favor them, (Sanskrit). What is their proposition?</div>
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== Lectures ==

=== Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures ===

'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.17 -- Hyderabad, November 22, 1972]]:''' Their proposition is that this consciousness is a symptom of combination of matter. That is Buddhist philosophy. They do not accept the existence of soul.

== Conversations and Morning Walks ==

=== 1973 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles]]:'''

Prabhupāda: The Māyāvādī philosopher says, the Buddha philosopher says, that "Stop this free will, and then you become happy." But our proposition is not to stop free will but purify free will. Purify. Not stop these eyes. Just if it is suffering from cataract, cure that cataract. Keep the eyes. And their proposition, "Get out these eyes and throw it. Then there will be no more seeing what is right and wrong." That is their proposition. Nirviśeṣa-vādī. Nirviśeṣa means no speciality, no varieties. That is nirviśeṣa. And śūnya, zero. When it is zero, then there is no question of right and wrong. So our philosophy is not that. There is no zero, and there is no varieties.

=== 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- September 30, 1975, Bombay]]:'''

Prabhupāda: That they know. This is preliminary. Kṛṣṇa is everywhere. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Not like... Not like the Ārya-samājhis: "Kṛṣṇa is everywhere except in the temple."

Dr. Patel: You have to create a temple within you, then seat Kṛṣṇa there.

Prabhupāda: No, whatever it may be, their proposition is "Kṛṣṇa is everywhere, but not in this temple." "Don't go to the temple." That is their proposition.

=== 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- May 25, 1976, Honolulu]]:'''

Devotee: [break] ...the universe was created five to ten billion years ago. Do we agree with their proposition, or...?

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Devotee: They say that this universe was created five to ten billion years ago. Do we agree with that proposition, or...?

Prabhupāda: Where it was before? (indistinct) Or gas?

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- May 26, 1976, Honolulu]]:'''

Prabhupāda: If you say the clerk, "Sir, I did not know that by committing this act how I shall be, I will have to be punished." That is not excuse. Your ignorance they do not believe; you must go. That is the law. It is called foolishness. "They believe," "I think," "It may be." This is science. This is their proposition: "It may be," "I think," "I believe." What is the value of this? And everywhere you'll find all these philosophers, scientists, and they'll talk like this, nonsense: "I believe," "It may be." Believe in the words of Kṛṣṇa. But he believes himself. You see? Kṛṣṇa says it is this. That he doesn't believe. But he has become more than Kṛṣṇa, he'll believe something is correct. This is his foolishness. Mūḍha.

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.|Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]:'''

Prabhupāda: They are right. They may present the wrong thing, but still they are right.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That is their proposition?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: It is possible, but that's why we're claiming that. They agree that because not only there is several facts in science, that one should be (indistinct) this is true, then suddenly by some new discoveries came out all wrong.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]:'''

Prabhupāda: That's all right. That's all right. But you cannot say that He does not come to showing mercy to a prophet. He may come if He likes. That is mission. Paritrāṇāya sādhūnām [Bg. 4.8]. One who is actually devotee, prophet, he's always anxious to see what they (indistinct). So in order to favor them, (Sanskrit). What is their proposition?

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