Mr. Deyani: Well, in this country you can get, sir.
Prabhupāda: In this country, but there are places there is no ghee. Then how you will perform it? Your first proposition is ghee, but where is ghee? It is all dalda. Now how you can perform yajña? I am talking as a matter of argument. If ghee is not available, then how yajña will be performed?
Mr. Deyani: That is actually the question when I first met him. (laughter) I asked him, really, that's what I told him . . .
Prabhupāda: Then his proposal is failure. Now you have to take the instruction in the Vedas, that,
- kṛte yad dhyāyato viṣṇuṁ
- tretāyāṁ yajato makhaiḥ
- dvāpare paricaryāyāṁ
- kalau tad dhari-kīrtanāt
- (SB 12.3.52)
In the Kali-yuga, the real yajña is hari-kīrtana. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prayair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ (SB 11.5.32). Sumedhasaḥ, those who have got good brain, they perform this yajña, hari-kīrtana. So there is no condition. God has give you the tongue. Either you are here or there, you can chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prayair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ.