Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa was advising to kill, to fight. That . . . he is explaining that killing of the body is not killing of the soul.
Woman (1): But you can't . . . your body might be an illusion, but to you it's real. And if you abused your life, then that's . . .
Prabhupāda: Fighting is a kṣatriya's duty, you see. Just like I can give you one example: Just like one man is ordered by the state that "This man should be hanged." Does it mean that the state is enemy of this man?
Woman (1): I disagree with hanging completely.
Madhudviṣa: She also disagrees with hanging.
Prabhupāda: You may disagree, but what is the principle? Do you mean to say the state is wrong, the government is wrong?
Woman (1): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Well, that is an individual opinion. But according to śāstra, we have to understand that . . . suppose your dress, something unclean dress, you have got. So if somebody says that "You take out this unclean dress. Get a . . ." so is that very (sic) enimating. Because after all, the soul is within the body. So if the body has become unclean, or some other reason, the body has to be changed, so that is not lack of love. Therefore we have to understand actually what we are. Am I this body or something else?
Woman (1): No, I quite agree that I'm spirit soul. I quite agree with that.
Prabhupāda: Then that's all right. So similarly, when there is duty, when . . . because I have already explained that the kṣatriyas are meant for maintaining the social order, the brāhmaṇa is meant for giving good intelligence, the vaiśyas are meant for maintaining the economic condition.