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Prabhupāda: Standard is already there. Kṛṣṇa has already made the standard. Our intelligence is to know how the standard has come.
Prabhupāda: Standard is already there. Kṛṣṇa has already made the standard. Our intelligence is to know how the standard has come.


Svarūpa Dāmodara: So we say that brahma-jijñāsā is a standard. Is that, is that...? Is that okay?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So we say that ''brahma-jijñāsā'' is a standard. Is that, is that . . .? Is that okay?


Prabhupāda: Brahma-jijñāsā means... Anything you take, it is working in a standard way. Just like the sun is rising. So the brahma-jijñāsā means how the sun is rising exactly in time. Who has made this rule? And in astronomy there is very fine calculation, one ten-thousandth part of a minute, or something like that? I have heard from you scientists. They, they make calculation of the movement of the sun like that. In astrology also, the moment is calculated like that. If the exact moment is there, by mathematical calculation, he can give you the exact history of your whole life. This is standard, all standard. Niyamitaḥ. Yasyājñayā bhramati kāla-cakraḥ. There is, Brahma-saṁhitā says:
Prabhupāda: ''Brahma-jijñāsā'' means . . . anything you take, it is working in a standard way. Just like the sun is rising. So the ''brahma-jijñāsā'' means how the sun is rising exactly in time. Who has made this rule? And in astronomy there is very fine calculation, one ten-thousandth part of a minute, or something like that? I have heard from you scientists. They, they make calculation of the movement of the sun like that. In astrology also, the moment is calculated like that. If the exact moment is there, by mathematical calculation, he can give you the exact history of your whole life. This is standard, all standard. ''Niyamitaḥ. Yasyājñayā bhramati kāla-cakraḥ''. There is, ''Brahma-saṁhitā'' says:


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:''yac-cakṣur eṣa savitā sakala-grahāṇāṁ''
:yac-cakṣur eṣa savitā sakala-grahāṇāṁ
:''rājā samasta-sura-mūrtir aśeṣa-tejāḥ''
:rājā samasta-sura-mūrtir aśeṣa-tejāḥ
:''yasyājñayā bhramati sambhṛta-kāla-cakro''
:yasyājñayā bhramati sambhṛta-kāla-cakro
:''govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi''
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.52)
:(Bs. 5.52)
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How exactly the sun and the moon and the planet, they are rotating? How? Yasyājñayā. By whose order? That Govinda, ādi-puruṣa, "I offer my respectful..." Everywhere you'll find the research.
How exactly the sun and the moon and the planet, they are rotating? How? Yasyājñayā. By whose order? That Govinda, ''ādi-puruṣa'', "I offer my respectful . . ." Everywhere you'll find the research.


Svarūpa Dāmodara: So then the difference between the transcendentalists and the scientists is that they do not know the standard of research.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So then the difference between the transcendentalists and the scientists is that they do not know the standard of research.


Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore we say they are fools. Why do we say mūḍhāḥ? Because they do not know. And our business is easy. We take Vedic version, Kṛṣṇa's version, Brahmā's version, Vyāsadeva's version, and accept. That's all. Which one is easiest? Our business is very simple. You ask your father... A child asks his father, "Father, what is this?" The father says, "This is microphone, my dear child." And he will, "Mother, this is microphone." So when he says this "Mother, this is microphone," is he correct or not?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore we say they are fools. Why do we say ''mūḍhāḥ''? Because they do not know. And our business is easy. We take Vedic version, Kṛṣṇa's version, Brahmā's version, Vyāsadeva's version, and accept. That's all. Which one is easiest? Our business is very simple. You ask your father . . . a child asks his father, "Father, what is this?" The father says: "This is microphone, my dear child." And he will, "Mother, this is microphone." So when he says this "Mother, this is microphone," is he correct or not?


Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, he is.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, he is.


Prabhupāda: He's correct. He may be child, but because he has accepted the words of his father, the statement is correct. So our process is that. Take the version of the authority, Kṛṣṇa, and you repeat it—your version is perfect. This is our policy. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, "You rascal scholar, philosopher, scientist, don't manufacture anything. Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa. That's all. You become master." Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). You become master. You can teach others, a spiritual master. That's all. And if, whatever little success I have got—only for this reason. I have never said anything which is not spoken by Kṛṣṇa. I never said, "In my opinion." I never said. You are so many students. I never said that to you. What is my opinion? One should know, "What is the value of my opinion? I am imperfect being." This is called tṛṇād api sunīcena taror api sahiṣṇunā ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.31|CC Adi 17.31]] / [[Vanisource:CC Antya 20.21|CC Antya 20.21, Śikṣāṣṭaka 3]]). If one thinks, "Oh, I am big scholar. I am this. I am that," you are rascal. You have to simply carry the message of Kṛṣṇa. But for your understanding you can make research work.
Prabhupāda: He's correct. He may be child, but because he has accepted the words of his father, the statement is correct. So our process is that. Take the version of the authority, Kṛṣṇa, and you repeat it—your version is perfect. This is our policy. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu says: "You rascal scholar, philosopher, scientist, don't manufacture anything. ''Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa''. That's all. You become master." ''Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). You become master. You can teach others, a spiritual master. That's all. And if, whatever little success I have got—only for this reason. I have never said anything which is not spoken by Kṛṣṇa. I never said, "In my opinion." I never said. You are so many students. I never said that to you. What is my opinion? One should know, "What is the value of my opinion? I am imperfect being." This is called ''tṛṇād api sunīcena taror api sahiṣṇunā'' ([[vanisource:CC Adi 17.31|CC Adi 17.31]] / [[vanisource:CC Antya 20.21|CC Antya 20.21, ''Śikṣāṣṭaka'' 3]]). If one thinks, "Oh, I am big scholar. I am this. I am that," you are rascal. You have to simply carry the message of Kṛṣṇa. But for your understanding you can make research work.


Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is the secret.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is the secret.
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Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the secret.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the secret.


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:''yasya deve parā bhaktir''
:yasya deve parā bhaktir
:''yathā deve tathā gurau''
:yathā deve tathā gurau
:''tasyaite kathitā hy arthāḥ''
:tasyaite kathitā hy arthāḥ
:''prakāśante mahātmanaḥ''
:prakāśante mahātmanaḥ
:(ŚU 6.23)
:(ŚU 6.23)
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If one has got unflinching faith in Kṛṣṇa and His representative, guru, then all the knowledge will be revealed to him automatically. Just like yourself. You are a big scientist. You have talked with me, you have studied with me, or you have examined me in so many ways. And I have also spoken whatever I had knowledge. Unless you are convinced, how you can say that "You are my spiritual master"? So what is the secret? I am not a scientist. I am not M.A., C.A. How do you agree to accept me as spiritual master? Because I stick to this principle, Kṛṣṇa and guru, that's all. This is the secret of guru.
If one has got unflinching faith in Kṛṣṇa and His representative, ''guru'', then all the knowledge will be revealed to him automatically. Just like yourself. You are a big scientist. You have talked with me, you have studied with me, or you have examined me in so many ways. And I have also spoken whatever I had knowledge. Unless you are convinced, how you can say that, "You are my spiritual master"? So what is the secret? I am not a scientist. I am not M.A., C.A. How do you agree to accept me as spiritual master? Because I stick to this principle, Kṛṣṇa and ''guru'', that's all. This is the secret of ''guru''.
 
So today is Baladeva-āvirbhāva. Baladeva, in the strength. Nāyam ātmā bala-hīnena labhyaḥ. You cannot understand, realize yourself, without the help of Baladeva. Therefore in the Vedic literatures: nāyam ātmā bala-hīnena labhyaḥ. You cannot become self-realized without the help of, without the mercy of Baladeva. Now, our Vivekananda Swami, he interpreted that "Unless you become stout and strong like the bulls and the buffalo, you cannot realize self." He interpreted like that. So he engaged people to make gymnastic, exercise. "You become very stout and strong, eat meat, and..." This is going on. This philosophy is going on. Bala-hīnena. "Unless you become as strong as a tiger, you cannot realize yourself." This interpretation is going on. Bala-hīnena labhyaḥ. Therefore they are... Always they put this argument, that "Our countrymen is suffering. There is no food. First of all we must give them food, make them strong, stout. Then we shall talk about Kṛṣṇa consciousness." Do they not say like that?
 
Brahmānanda: Yes.
 
Prabhupāda: This is another nonsense. Bala-hīnena does not mean this physical strength. Bala-hīn... Bala, bala means spiritual strength, Baladeva. Baladeva is spiritual strength. Nityānanda. Balarāma haila nitāi.
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Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures

A child asks his father, "Father, what is this?" The father says, "This is microphone, my dear child." And he will, "Mother, this is microphone." So when he says this "Mother, this is microphone," is he correct or not? He's correct. He may be child, but because he has accepted the words of his father, the statement is correct. So our process is that. Take the version of the authority, Kṛṣṇa, and you repeat it—your version is perfect. This is our policy.


Prabhupāda: Standard is already there. Kṛṣṇa has already made the standard. Our intelligence is to know how the standard has come.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So we say that brahma-jijñāsā is a standard. Is that, is that . . .? Is that okay?

Prabhupāda: Brahma-jijñāsā means . . . anything you take, it is working in a standard way. Just like the sun is rising. So the brahma-jijñāsā means how the sun is rising exactly in time. Who has made this rule? And in astronomy there is very fine calculation, one ten-thousandth part of a minute, or something like that? I have heard from you scientists. They, they make calculation of the movement of the sun like that. In astrology also, the moment is calculated like that. If the exact moment is there, by mathematical calculation, he can give you the exact history of your whole life. This is standard, all standard. Niyamitaḥ. Yasyājñayā bhramati kāla-cakraḥ. There is, Brahma-saṁhitā says:

yac-cakṣur eṣa savitā sakala-grahāṇāṁ
rājā samasta-sura-mūrtir aśeṣa-tejāḥ
yasyājñayā bhramati sambhṛta-kāla-cakro
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
(Bs. 5.52)

How exactly the sun and the moon and the planet, they are rotating? How? Yasyājñayā. By whose order? That Govinda, ādi-puruṣa, "I offer my respectful . . ." Everywhere you'll find the research.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So then the difference between the transcendentalists and the scientists is that they do not know the standard of research.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore we say they are fools. Why do we say mūḍhāḥ? Because they do not know. And our business is easy. We take Vedic version, Kṛṣṇa's version, Brahmā's version, Vyāsadeva's version, and accept. That's all. Which one is easiest? Our business is very simple. You ask your father . . . a child asks his father, "Father, what is this?" The father says: "This is microphone, my dear child." And he will, "Mother, this is microphone." So when he says this "Mother, this is microphone," is he correct or not?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, he is.

Prabhupāda: He's correct. He may be child, but because he has accepted the words of his father, the statement is correct. So our process is that. Take the version of the authority, Kṛṣṇa, and you repeat it—your version is perfect. This is our policy. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu says: "You rascal scholar, philosopher, scientist, don't manufacture anything. Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa. That's all. You become master." Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa (CC Madhya 7.128). You become master. You can teach others, a spiritual master. That's all. And if, whatever little success I have got—only for this reason. I have never said anything which is not spoken by Kṛṣṇa. I never said, "In my opinion." I never said. You are so many students. I never said that to you. What is my opinion? One should know, "What is the value of my opinion? I am imperfect being." This is called tṛṇād api sunīcena taror api sahiṣṇunā (CC Adi 17.31 / CC Antya 20.21, Śikṣāṣṭaka 3). If one thinks, "Oh, I am big scholar. I am this. I am that," you are rascal. You have to simply carry the message of Kṛṣṇa. But for your understanding you can make research work.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is the secret.

Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the secret.

yasya deve parā bhaktir
yathā deve tathā gurau
tasyaite kathitā hy arthāḥ
prakāśante mahātmanaḥ
(ŚU 6.23)

If one has got unflinching faith in Kṛṣṇa and His representative, guru, then all the knowledge will be revealed to him automatically. Just like yourself. You are a big scientist. You have talked with me, you have studied with me, or you have examined me in so many ways. And I have also spoken whatever I had knowledge. Unless you are convinced, how you can say that, "You are my spiritual master"? So what is the secret? I am not a scientist. I am not M.A., C.A. How do you agree to accept me as spiritual master? Because I stick to this principle, Kṛṣṇa and guru, that's all. This is the secret of guru.