Nalinī-kānta: We have already had a hog's body. So we didn't like it. Otherwise, why would we change?
Prabhupāda: No. By the process of nature automatically evolves. That is evolution. They do not know. But nature giving him chance, this type of body, this, more intelligent, more intelligent, more intelligent... Then you come to the human form of body, very good intelligence. And if he does not utilize it, again he becomes a hogs and dog. Go round, merry-go-round. Merry-go-round. If you don't take... You have got now. By evolution you have got this human form of body. If you do not utilize it properly, then again you become hog. So again, for millions' years. So...
Rūpānuga: They say, "We don't remember. We don't remember being a hog, so what is the harm?"
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Rūpānuga: We don't remember being a hog, so...
Prabhupāda: That is hoggism, that you do not remember. Therefore you are hog. Because you do not remember, therefore you are hog. That is the distinction.