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| Prabhupāda: Jaya Prakash Narayan. Even in old days they were dealing with this politics. What they will do good to the people? But they do not know. This is disease. They do not study the whole history of the world: What Gandhi has done? What Hitler has done? What Napoleon has done? And what they will do? But they are applauded: "He is promising within one year poverty will be driven away." All false propaganda. Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27|BG 3.27]]). Vimūḍhātmā. Rascals. They are promising so many things. They will never be able to do anything. And they are applauded. | | Prabhupāda: Jaya Prakash Narayan. Even in old days they were dealing with this politics. What they will do good to the people? But they do not know. This is disease. They do not study the whole history of the world: What Gandhi has done? What Hitler has done? What Napoleon has done? And what they will do? But they are applauded: "He is promising within one year poverty will be driven away." All false propaganda. ''Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate'' ([[vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). ''Vimūḍhātmā''. Rascals. They are promising so many things. They will never be able to do anything. And they are applauded. |
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| Prabhupāda: No, they know it. Study the whole history of the world. What the big, big leaders have done? They are not new leaders. Before them, all over the world there were big, big leaders. Napoleon promised so many things. At last, he had to drink horse's urine and die. When he was captured by the Englishmen he wanted water, and he was given horse urine. Envisioned, "I shall make my proudest, most important stage." The Britishers, so many—Gladstone, Churchill, Lloyd George(?), British Empire—what they have done? Where is British Empire? Indira made plan, Nehru family will be English terrorist(?). Now what is her position? So they studying history, still, they are promising. Mūḍha. | | Prabhupāda: No, they know it. Study the whole history of the world. What the big, big leaders have done? They are not new leaders. Before them, all over the world there were big, big leaders. Napoleon promised so many things. At last, he had to drink horse's urine and die. When he was captured by the Englishmen he wanted water, and he was given horse urine. Envisioned, "I shall make my proudest, most important stage." The Britishers, so many—Gladstone, Churchill, Lloyd George, British Empire—what they have done? Where is British Empire? Indira made plan, Nehru family will be English terrorist. Now what is her position? So they studying history, still, they are promising. ''Mūḍha.'' |
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| Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But the great saintly persons, their works have done good for generations in thousands of years. | | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But the great saintly persons, their works have done good for generations in thousands of years. |
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| Prabhupāda: Imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.2|BG 4.2]]). Become rājarṣi; try to understand what Kṛṣṇa says. That's all. Duṣkṛtinaḥ mūḍhāḥ. They will manufacture. Morarji Desai, he promised within ten years. Whether he will live ten years? He is already eighty. So this is the time for promising? This is the time for retiring, for understanding Kṛṣṇa. No. This man is rotting in the hospital, he's promising so many things. | | Prabhupāda: ''Imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ'' ([[vanisource:BG 4.2 (1972)|BG 4.2]]). Become rājarṣi; try to understand what Kṛṣṇa says. That's all. ''Duṣkṛtinaḥ mūḍhāḥ''. They will manufacture. Morarji Desai, he promised within ten years. Whether he will live ten years? He is already eighty. So this is the time for promising? This is the time for retiring, for understanding Kṛṣṇa. No. This man is rotting in the hospital, he's promising so many things. |
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| Prabhupāda: Yes, I advised Gandhi that he should retire. He never retired. That's all right. And our program is, they are chucked out. Pañcāśordhvaṁ vanaṁ vrajet. You show your all nonsense ability up to fifty years. Don't go more than that. Because you are rascal, you will never be able to do anything, but jump like monkey up to fifty years, not more than that. Monkey jumping may be continued up to fifty years. Then retire. They will continue monkey jumping up to the last point of death.
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| Prabhupāda: That's all. And then go to hell. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). So after jumping, when this body is finished, he is going to accept another body offered by nature. Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu ([[Vanisource:BG 13.22|BG 13.22]]). Rascals, they do not know how nature is working. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27|BG 3.27]]). Making plan and wasting time, wasting their valuable life. At least, this institution which we have started to give this enlightenment, they must be maintained in India in a first-class standard, that at least some intelligent persons can take advantage. They are all fools, rascals. They cannot take. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ. That is already described. Narādhamas will not take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. But there are persons who are not narādhama. For them there must be. Diamond shop is not for everyone, but there are some persons who can purchase diamonds. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]). It is not meant for everyone. So this is India's culture. At least, these men should be conscientious, that "Let this Bhagavad-gītā culture be maintained in pure form." There is cultural department, government. They are sending dancing party. You see? Real culture. And to make show they will pose themselves a great student of Bhagavad-gītā. So we are making alone a little, teeny effort, but it is being appreciated all over the world. That is our encouragement. Our books, our philosophy, our religion, America has accepted: "Yes, it is Indian. (indistinct)." It is not sentiment.
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