Prabhupāda: One who is following the general instruction, then you can understand that he has actually fully surrendered to God. Then in particular case, if he is required to be given a particular instruction, that is different thing. That is also possible. But how one is God conscious, that is understood that how he is strictly following the general instruction. And otherwise it will be escaping. Somebody will say: "God is dictating me in this way, so I can do this." (chuckles) Then everyone can say like that.
Bishop Kelly: That is true. That is true. Did you wish me to take this away, or I have to look at it here?
Satsvarūpa: May he keep the book, or . . .
Prabhupāda: No, this is the only one sample I have got. But as soon as we get more copies, we shall be very glad.
Bishop Kelly: I will leave that. I will return your glasses. (laughter) I hope mine are outside.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Bishop Kelly: So I am very pleased to have had the opportunity of meeting with you, Your Grace.
Prabhupāda: So I am also, that Your Holiness has come.
Bishop Kelly: I hope that, you know, that the in some real way that the cause of God will be served the better for this meeting. I do wish you Godspeed in your work, and in that, of course . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, we are trying our bit to educate people how to revive his original God consciousness. Then he will be happy. Our principle is how to make people happy. There is a verse about the Gosvāmīs, nānā-śāstra-vicāraṇaika-nipuṇau sad-dharma-saṁsthāpakau lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau. This word is very important, lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau, "for the welfare of the people in general." People accuse sometimes—of course, foolish people do that—that, "These God conscious person, they are escaping." No. Who are actually God conscious person is always thinking how to do well to the people in general. Yes. Sad-dharma-saṁsthāpakau.