The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the sole proprietor and enjoyer of everything. When the living entities forget this fact, they develop an intense desire to enjoy this phenomenal world. But they cannot be fully satisfied by such endeavors, and thus anger develops. Anger causes frustration, as in the story of the unsuccessful fox and the "sour grapes." The living entity is then forced to pretend to be a renouncer. But at the bottom of such renunciation burns the great flame of greed and the desire for enjoyment. This is only another stage of material desire.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.2.27|SB 3.2.27, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The forests on the shore of the Yamunā are all beautiful gardens full of trees of mango, jackfruit, apples, guava, oranges, grapes, berries, palmfruit and so many other plants and fragrant flowers. And because the forest was on the bank of the Yamunā, naturally there were ducks, cranes and peacocks on the branches of the trees. All these trees and birds and beasts were pious living entities born in the transcendental abode of Vṛndāvana just to give pleasure to the Lord and His eternal associates, the cowherd boys.</p> | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.2.27|SB 3.2.27, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The forests on the shore of the Yamunā are all beautiful gardens full of trees of mango, jackfruit, apples, guava, oranges, grapes, berries, palmfruit and so many other plants and fragrant flowers. And because the forest was on the bank of the Yamunā, naturally there were ducks, cranes and peacocks on the branches of the trees. All these trees and birds and beasts were pious living entities born in the transcendental abode of Vṛndāvana just to give pleasure to the Lord and His eternal associates, the cowherd boys.</p> | ||
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<div id="SB_Canto_8" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 8"><h3>SB Canto 8</h3> | |||
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 8.2.9-13|SB 8.2.9-13, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">In a valley of Trikūṭa Mountain there was a garden called Ṛtumat. This garden belonged to the great devotee Varuṇa and was a sporting place for the damsels of the demigods. Flowers and fruits grew there in all seasons. Among them were mandāras, pārijātas, pāṭalas, aśokas, campakas, cūtas, piyālas, panasas, mangoes, āmrātakas, kramukas, coconut trees, date trees and pomegranates. There were madhukas, palm trees, tamālas, asanas, arjunas, ariṣṭas, uḍumbaras, plakṣas, banyan trees, kiṁśukas and sandalwood trees. There were also picumardas, kovidāras, saralas, sura-dārus, grapes, sugarcane, bananas, jambu, badarīs, akṣas, abhayas and āmalakīs.</p> | |||
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" class="section" sec_index="2" parent="compilation" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta"><h2>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta</h2> | |||
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<div id="CC_Antya-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Antya-lila"><h3>CC Antya-lila</h3> | |||
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Antya 18.104|CC Antya 18.104, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">“Among the fruits were many varieties of coconuts and mangoes, bananas, berries, jackfruits, dates, tangerines, oranges, blackberries, santarās, grapes, almonds and all kinds of dried fruit."</p> | |||
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<div id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" class="section" sec_index="3" parent="compilation" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2> | |||
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<div id="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Renunciation Through Wisdom"><h3>Renunciation Through Wisdom</h3> | |||
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<div id="RTW14_0" class="quote" parent="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" book="OB" index="6" link="RTW 1.4" link_text="Renunciation Through Wisdom 1.4"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:RTW 1.4|Renunciation Through Wisdom 1.4]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the sole proprietor and enjoyer of everything. When the living entities forget this fact, they develop an intense desire to enjoy this phenomenal world. But they cannot be fully satisfied by such endeavors, and thus anger develops. Anger causes frustration, as in the story of the unsuccessful fox and the "sour grapes." The living entity is then forced to pretend to be a renouncer. But at the bottom of such renunciation burns the great flame of greed and the desire for enjoyment. This is only another stage of material desire.</p> | |||
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | |||
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG410CalcuttaSeptember231974_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="157" link="Lecture on BG 4.10 -- Calcutta, September 23, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.10 -- Calcutta, September 23, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.10 -- Calcutta, September 23, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.10 -- Calcutta, September 23, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So if you take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then these are the result. Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.56 (1972)|BG 2.56]]). Krodha means when we cannot satisfy our senses in the... We try to satisfy our senses... Just like the jackal. He wanted to eat some grapes, but jumping, jumping, he could not get. Then, in krodha, he says, "Oh, it is useless. It is sour. We don't want." So this krodha, in the absence of sense gratification, there is krodha. Kāma eṣa krodha eṣa rajo-guṇa-samudbhavaḥ.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG1320BombayOctober141973_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="368" link="Lecture on BG 13.20 -- Bombay, October 14, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.20 -- Bombay, October 14, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.20 -- Bombay, October 14, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.20 -- Bombay, October 14, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you want real love, real position, then you have to transfer your, these loving propensities in five different kinds of mellows to Kṛṣṇa. Then it will be permanent, and you'll be happy.</p> | |||
<p>Don't reject this as, because you could not capture the grapes, then the grapes and the jackals. The jackal... You know that story. The jackal went to steal some grapes in the orchard, and it was very high. He jumped over several times. He could not get it. Then he rejected, "Oh, this is sour. I don't want it."</p> | |||
<p>Similarly, this Māyāvādī philosophy is like that. First of all he wants to become very big man, very big businessman, minister, this, that, to enjoy, simply enjoy, competition of enjoyment. But when he's baffled, when he did not enjoy, simply suffered—he comes to his knowledge that "I could not enjoy; I simply suffered"—then "It is mithyā. Grapes are sour." That philosophy will not do. You must know that this prakṛti, this material world, you are not enjoyer. The enjoyer is Kṛṣṇa. Sarva-loka-maheśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 5.29 (1972)|BG 5.29]]).</p> | |||
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1219VrndavanaOctober301972_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="81" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.19 -- Vrndavana, October 30, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.19 -- Vrndavana, October 30, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.19 -- Vrndavana, October 30, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.2.19 -- Vrndavana, October 30, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">One is very, very busy for acquiring things for enjoy, sense enjoyment, and when he's dissatisfied, he cannot fully enjoy, neither he's satisfied, he says, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, "This world is false. There is no need of this world. The grapes are sour." The same story. The jackal and the grapes. A jackal wanted to eat the grapes, and it jumped many times, but could not approach the grapes. So at last he satisfied himself that "There is no need of the grapes. It is sour." So this brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā is like that. When one is fed up or tired of this world, he cannot enjoy it due to age or other circumstances, at that time, he says, jagan mithyā. Why jagan mithyā? If God is truth, then creation of God is also truth. Why it should be mithyā? But because he has no knowledge, sufficient knowledge of the Vedic instruction, īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam, pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]), he does not know that creation of God is complete.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1838LosAngelesApril301973_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="237" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.38 -- Los Angeles, April 30, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.38 -- Los Angeles, April 30, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.38 -- Los Angeles, April 30, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.38 -- Los Angeles, April 30, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">One thinks, "Oh, why shall I touch it? Somebody's... Let it remain there. I have no, nothing to do." This is called tyāga, giving up. So the hundred dollar note is the same. One is trying to enjoy it, and one is trying to give it up: "I don't care for it." So both of them are fools, bhogī and tyāgī. Bhogī means the karmīs. The karmīs, those who are working very hard, utilizing... The scientists are utilizing the resources, material resources. That means all are making policy how to steal that note. That is their policy, the karmīs. And another, while he was unable to steal, he says, "Oh, grapes are sour. There is no need of..." That is tyāgī.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1842LosAngelesMay41973_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="244" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.42 -- Los Angeles, May 4, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.42 -- Los Angeles, May 4, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.42 -- Los Angeles, May 4, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.42 -- Los Angeles, May 4, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like we were discussing in this beach morning about the spiritual world. Spiritual world is exactly like the material world, varieties. There is also house. There is also tree. There is also road. There is also chariot. There is... Everything is there—but without inebriety, without inebriety. There, cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr abhipālayantam (Bs. 5.29). For example, just like there is tree also. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa. But they, those trees are not like this tree. Suppose you, here, you want some fruit, say mango. You go to the mango tree, you taking mango, at the same time desire, "Why not little grapes?" But this mango tree cannot supply you grapes. But in the spiritual world you are eating mango, at the same time, if you desire grapes, the same tree will supply you. This is called desire tree. And... Some ideas of the spiritual world are there in the... Just like here, for light, you require sunlight, moonlight. But in the spiritual world, there is no need of sunlight, moonlight, because everyone is effulgent. By his own light he can see everything.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB616LosAngelesJanuary31970_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="582" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1970"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You cannot manufacture this nice fruit. It is not in your power. You may be very much expert in conducting a big factory for manufacturing these motorcars, but it is not possible for you to manufacture these nice grapes or oranges or banana or rice. No. That is not in your power. Therefore a sane man should admit that "This is sent by God." This is common sense. What is beyond your power... If you say it is product of nature... What do you mean by nature? Nature means an energy which is acting under the direction of God. That is nature. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā: mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram ([[Vanisource:BG 9.10 (1972)|BG 9.10]]).</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB6132SanFranciscoJuly171975_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="654" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So universe is not so small that you can ride on your 747 and go. (laughter) It is not so easy. It is not so easy. So therefore, from the circumstances, we can conclude that they could not approach the moon planet. And now they are saying that "It is useless. There is no need of going there. The grapes are sour." (laughter) The jackal jumping, jumping, jumping. When he could not get the grapes, then he is rejecting, "Oh, this is sour. It is no use." So after jumping so many years and spending so much money, they are now rejecting: "The moon planet is not habitable." But we get there. This is one of the heavenly planets, and it is habitable by the most advanced pious men. So these are the difference.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB6155LondonAugust131975_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="691" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.55 -- London, August 13, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.55 -- London, August 13, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.55 -- London, August 13, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.55 -- London, August 13, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everyone, from the morning to night, they are simply trying how to enjoy the material world: "How to enjoy? How to enjoy?" This is called karma-jñāna. When they are fed up, then "the grapes are sour." They give up: brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. But that will not stay. If you... Even if you give up for the time being, that jagat mithyā—"We have no business with the jagat"—it may be sentimentally enduring for some time, but because you are not purified, therefore Bhāgavata says, ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa vimukta-māninas tvayy asta-bhāvād aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 10.2.32|SB 10.2.32]]). Simply to understand that "I am not this material body, so I have nothing to do with this body, and I am spirit soul," simply this much knowledge is not perfect.</p> | |||
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaOctober171972_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="4" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The material world, because everything is temporary, so sometimes when we are fed up with material activities, we stop to do it and become a renouncer. Bhoga-tyāga. "Grapes are sour." You know the story. A jackal entered into a vine orchard, and it was very high. It began to jump to get the grapes, but when he failed, he said, "Oh, these grapes are sour. It is nonsense." (laughter) The karmīs are like that, that they work very hard, but they cannot relish any permanent happiness. That is not possible. Therefore they give up. Brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. They give up these worldly activities as false. Jagan mithyā. But they do not relish anything. Actually they do not relish what is Brahma-sukha. Therefore again they fall down.</p> | |||
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaOctober171972_1" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="4" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 17, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The difference is that a devotee relishes a particular type of mellow, rasa, in this material world. But the, those who are not devotees, they do not feel any relish from this material world. They feel for some time, but when it becomes stale in their taste, they say, "It is false." Just like the same example: The jackal first of all tried to get the grapes, jumping, jumping, and when it was a failure, he said, "Oh, the grapes are sour. I don't require." So except devotee... The nondevotees, the karmīs, jñānīs, yogis, they actually do not relish the sweetness of the creation of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore Bhāgavata says, ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa vimukta-māninaḥ. "So persons who are thinking that they have become liberated by their own ways," ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa, ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa vimukta-māninaḥ tvay asta-bhāvād aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 10.2.32|SB 10.2.32]]), "actually they have not tasted the Absolute Truth. Therefore their intelligence is not yet purified." Aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ.</p> | |||
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionCalcuttaJanuary291973_2" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="46" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 29, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 29, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 29, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 29, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is stated, the asuric vicāra. "Today I have got so much money. And tomorrow I am going to increase it to so much." Ko 'sti āḍhyo 'yam. "I am the richest." This is karmī's conception. And jñānīs, because they're fed up, so they say, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā: "This world is false." Grapes are sour. You know the story, jackal? He wanted to take the grapes, jumping, jumping, jumping. When he could not get it, he says, "Oh, grapes are sour. I have no necessity. I have no necessity." Similarly these rascals, they renounce the world. What renouncement? What you had? You are renouncing? This is also wrong. The real happiness is sevā. "This is Kṛṣṇa's, and it must be used for Kṛṣṇa's purpose." That is real happiness. Actual, that is the fact.</p> | |||
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="SpeechNewVrindabanAugust311972_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="121" link="Speech -- New Vrindaban, August 31, 1972" link_text="Speech -- New Vrindaban, August 31, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Speech -- New Vrindaban, August 31, 1972|Speech -- New Vrindaban, August 31, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everyone takes birth as human being, but he does not know how to utilize it. He utilizes it just like animal. The animal eats; we simply make arrangement of eating unnaturally. That is our advancement. In the animal kingdom, every particular animal has got a particular type of food. Just like tiger. A tiger eats flesh and blood, but if you give tiger nice oranges or grapes, he'll not touch it, because that is not his food. Similarly, a hog. A hog eats stool. If you give the hog nice halavā, it will not touch. You see? So every particular animal has got a particular type of food.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureJakartaFebruary281973_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="133" link="Lecture -- Jakarta, February 28, 1973" link_text="Lecture -- Jakarta, February 28, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- Jakarta, February 28, 1973|Lecture -- Jakarta, February 28, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I say brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, "This world is false. Now I shall become Brahman, the Supreme Brahman. I shall merge into Brahman." This is... Just like the grapes are sour. The jackal and the orchard... You have knowledge of this story. This jackal wanted to capture the grapes, and when he could not capture, he gives it up: "Oh, the grapes are sour. It is no use." Similarly, first of all we try to become master—master of family, master of society, master of community, master of nation, master of international figure—and when you're baffled, then you give up this world. So-called give up. We cannot give up. But we say brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, "This world is false, and now brahma is satya; therefore I shall become Brahman." You are already Brahman. Why you shall become? You're already Brahman, because you are part and parcel of God. God is Brahman, Parabrahman, and you are Brahman also.</p> | |||
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<div id="Departure_Talks" class="sub_section" sec_index="12" parent="Lectures" text="Departure Talks"><h3>Departure Talks</h3> | |||
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<div id="DepartureLectureLondonMarch121975_0" class="quote" parent="Departure_Talks" book="Lec" index="5" link="Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975" link_text="Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975|Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like these moon-planet-goers, they attempted many times jumping, but they could not get any shelter. They have come back again. Now they have I think left off. What is that? "Grapes are sour." After jumping, jumping, the jackal, when he could not get the grapes, then he says that "Grapes are sour." That is... (laughter) "No need." So these so-called scientists, after jumping like the jackal, could not get any place in the moon planet, and they have come down again. It is not possible. You cannot go to any of the planets, although they are material. You cannot... Just like you cannot go to any country without getting the visa permit, similarly... There are many planets. They are open for your entrance, but not in that way, that by force you will go. That is not possible.</p> | |||
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononSigmundFreud_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="17" link="Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud|Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud]]: </span><div class="text">Prabhupāda: You are making arrangement to live here very happily; next day you die. So you are under controller. How can you deny it? So there is supreme controller. Now, knowledge means, "Who is that supreme controller? How He is controlling?" Not that deny it, "Grapes are sour." Jumping, jumping, jumping, jumping, when he could not reach the grapes, he said, "Oh, there is no need of them. It is sour." Their position is like that. They cannot understand... God is there, that's a fact-supreme controller. But they cannot explain, neither they can understand. There is jackal struggle. Jackal jumping, jumping; when he cannot get the, reach the grapes, he says, " Why (indistinct)? It is sour." Their conclusion is like that. They cannot understand what is God, how He is acting, what is religion, and they are defying, "There is no need of religion, there is no need of God." Jackal struggling, that's all. Jackal struggling is no philosophy. | |||
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | |||
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianAmbassadorSeptember51973Stockholm_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="72" link="Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm|Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: What is that?</p> | |||
<p>Ambassador: Tryamṛta is sugar and honey and...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh.</p> | |||
<p>Ambassador: ...sugar and grapes.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Pañcāmṛta, we have got.</p> | |||
<p>Ambassador: Hmm...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Tryamṛta.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember41973LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="89" link="Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: What is life cannot be proved by experiments. So it is not necessary to talk about life now.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughs) Grapes are sour. (devotees laugh) The jackal's philosophy. The jackal came in the orchard of grapes and tried to take some grapes. He jumped many times, and when he failed, "Oh, there is no necessity, it is sour." It is jackal's philosophy. Sly fox.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember161973LosAngeles_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="102" link="Morning Walk -- December 16, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 16, 1973, Los Angeles"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 16, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 16, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: They want things by experimental knowledge, and when they fail it, they say it is nothing.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is voidism. First of all they try to enjoy. When they fail... The jackal in the orchard first of all tried to get the grapes, jumping, jumping, jumping. When he could not get, then he said, "Oh it is sour. Don't require..." (laughter) They will say, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā: "This is all false. Let us go to Brahman." This is their philosophy. First of all they try as karmī, brmmmmmmm. (Prabhupāda makes loud car sound) (laughter) When all these brm brm brm, life after life, when he finds that there is nothing, "Oh, it is all false. Grapes are sour." Jackal jumping. There is need of God. You can write article.</p> | |||
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJune21974Geneva_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="94" link="Morning Walk -- June 2, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 2, 1974, Geneva"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 2, 1974, Geneva|Morning Walk -- June 2, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: Leonardo da Vinci.</p> | |||
<p>Yogeśvara: He's Italian.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. It is said that he was very poor man. So he painted in a fruitshop grapes.</p> | |||
<p>Devotees: Cezanne.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah. So the crows came to pick up the grapes, and the king was passing, he picked up, "Oh, who is that artist?" He became rich man in association. No, I have seen in that hall. So first-class picture. I have never seen such nice picture. Exactly life.</p> | |||
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMay271975Honolulu_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="92" link="Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bali-mardana: They want to send a satellite to the other planets.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Moon finished?</p> | |||
<p>Bali-mardana: Yes, it is not good for... It is too much money. They cannot afford it.</p> | |||
<p>Guru kṛpā: It's nothing but rocks anyway there. They think it is nothing but rocks so why waste time, go to some other place.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. Grapes are sour.</p> | |||
<p>Guru kṛpā: Yes.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Jackal. Jackal and the grapes. The grapes were high. First of all jumped, jumping. Then, when he could not get it, "This is useless. It is sour."</p> | |||
<p>Devotee (1): They didn't reach moon at all.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: At all. Jumping, jumping, the jackal says, "Oh, it is no use. It is sour."</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJune281975Denver_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="116" link="Morning Walk -- June 28, 1975, Denver" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 28, 1975, Denver"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 28, 1975, Denver|Morning Walk -- June 28, 1975, Denver]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Well, when there is killing, it is not that the pious men... But mostly they were saved. The Pāṇḍavas were saved. The five brothers, they remained. Now the moon is sour. Grapes are sour? (laughter) The jackal jumped over to catch some grapes, and when he fell, "Eh, what is the use of grapes? It is sour." The jackal said. So this is... Now they say there is, that is not good for him. "Let us go to Venus. (laughter) Moon is sour." And why you spent so much money? (break) ...stone man has come. That is the museum.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly241975LosAngeles_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="153" link="Morning Walk -- July 24, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 24, 1975, Los Angeles"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 24, 1975, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- July 24, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You see that it is on the mouth, but one is feeling pleasure, and one is feeling finished. (laughter)</p> | |||
<p>Yadubara: The materialists say that it's very morbid to talk so much about death. They say it is very depressing to speak so much about death.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Because they are rascals, they cannot conquer. Everyone doesn't like death, but because they cannot conquer, they say like that, "Grapes are sour. Don't bother." After jumping, jumping, jumping, when the grapes were not available, "It is sour, no use."</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkAugust121975Paris_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="171" link="Morning Walk -- August 12, 1975, Paris" link_text="Morning Walk -- August 12, 1975, Paris"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- August 12, 1975, Paris|Morning Walk -- August 12, 1975, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then why you are trying to get out of suffering? Suffer, rascal. Why you are trying to get out of suffering. Why?</p> | |||
<p>Brahmānanda: Because they don't like it. But they say you have to accept it.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Then, if you say... If it is a part of life, why don't you like it? Suffer. Go on suffering. You are accepting as part of life because you cannot get out of it. "The grapes are sour." That's all. After jumping, jumping, jumping, when it is not available, "Oh, the grapes are sour. It is no... There is no necessity." Jackal's philosophy.</p> | |||
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="GardenConversationJune271976NewVrindaban_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="166" link="Garden Conversation -- June 27, 1976, New Vrindaban" link_text="Garden Conversation -- June 27, 1976, New Vrindaban"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation -- June 27, 1976, New Vrindaban|Garden Conversation -- June 27, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dhṛṣṭadyumna: And then they want to say that this is mithyā, that Kṛṣṇa consciousness is mithyā.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Whatever they say, practically see.</p> | |||
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Yes. They do not know how to use the cow, only kill.</p> | |||
<p>Devotee (4): You said that is the sour grape philosophy.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Grape philosophy, what is that?</p> | |||
<p>Hari-śauri: Sour grape.</p> | |||
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: The fox...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah.</p> | |||
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: ...wanted to taste the grapes, but he couldn't, so he said they are no good.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly261976London_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="228" link="Room Conversation -- July 26, 1976, London" link_text="Room Conversation -- July 26, 1976, London"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 26, 1976, London|Room Conversation -- July 26, 1976, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You can drop many bombs in the Sahara desert. Who cares? Who cares for that? (laughter)</p> | |||
<p>Jayatīrtha: Prabhupāda said they were actually in Arizona. This Mars capsule has landed in Arizona.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Why bomb? "Grapes are sour."</p> | |||
<p>Bhagavān: To measure something.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Whatever they measure, they are useless. What they'll gain by dropping a bomb?</p> | |||
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<div id="RadioInterviewJuly271976London_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="230" link="Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London" link_text="Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London|Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: We have some grapes. Shall I get them?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Grapes, sometimes they are sour. What other?</p> | |||
<p>Hari-śauri: Pears, apples, bananas, watermelon.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Banana is very good. And give me apples.</p> | |||
<p>Hari-śauri: Pear also?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> | |||
<p>Hari-śauri: I'll try the grapes. If they are not sour, I'll bring some.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkAroundGroundsAugust21976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_3" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="237" link="Morning Walk Around Grounds -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Morning Walk Around Grounds -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk Around Grounds -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Morning Walk Around Grounds -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1): This is from the previous owner, Prabhupāda. He's agreed to take the grapes away. He is simply finding another place for them. It's part of the contract we made with him that he had to move them.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: This land?</p> | |||
<p>Bhagavān: That is the proprietor's land on this side.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: And he does not find any land to move the grapes.</p> | |||
<p>Bhagavān: What was that, Śrīla Prabhupāda? He has so much land?</p> | |||
<p>Devotee (1): There is a law by which it's very difficult to move grapes anywhere. So he's trying to get permission from the maire to do it.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationWithFrenchCommanderAugust31976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_4" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="244" link="Room Conversation With French Commander -- August 3, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Room Conversation With French Commander -- August 3, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With French Commander -- August 3, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Room Conversation With French Commander -- August 3, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text">Prabhupāda: This is science, rascal's science, which is impossible, but they are trying. This is called rascaldom. Stupidity. Do the scientists not say like that? "We are trying to overcome." Rascal, you'll never be able to do that. But this rascaldom is going on. And they're applauding, "Oh, very good, very good, very good." "Oh, you are going to the moon planet." But after all endeavor, the grapes are sour: "It is not useful." That's all. You know the story? The jackal? He tried for the grapes, jumping, jumping, jumping. When it was failure, he said, "Oh, it is useless. It is sour, no use." (laughter) So they are doing like that. The jackals are jumping, that's all. And we can see how these rascals are jumping uselessly. (laughter) So we are warning people not to follow these silly jackals. Be prudent and be Kṛṣṇa conscious. That will make your life successful. | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust81976Tehran_5" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="249" link="Room Conversation -- August 8, 1976, Tehran" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 8, 1976, Tehran"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 8, 1976, Tehran|Room Conversation -- August 8, 1976, Tehran]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You grow banana?</p> | |||
<p>Ātreya Ṛṣi: No, the banana is imported.</p> | |||
<p>Parivrājakācārya: From South America, they bring bananas.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Grapes? Grapes you have got.</p> | |||
<p>Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Grapes, apple. Where is your eldest child?</p> | |||
<p>Nandarāṇī: This is Candramukhī.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. I saw you in Los Angeles?</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember151976Vrndavana_6" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="333" link="Room Conversation -- November 15, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 15, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 15, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 15, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Whatever Mars going? Finished.</p> | |||
<p>Hari-śauri: Yes. They don't put anything about it now.</p> | |||
<p>Guest: (Hindi conversation)</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Grapes are sour. Full of sand. (Hindi conversation) (break)</p> | |||
<p>Devotee: ...thirty-six thousand students so it's in a very, very nice area, just for the type of people we'd like to reach, you know, intelligent. And also it's a... Actually what it is, it's a motel that's had its, you know, it has no business there. It's surrounded by other more expensive...</p> | |||
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="ConversationonTraintoAllahabadJanuary111977India_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India" link_text="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India|Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Mango candy? (Hari-śauri opens door and asks in another compartment)</p> | |||
<p>Hari-śauri: Pradyumna, have you got some mango candy?</p> | |||
<p>Jagadīśa: There are grapes also.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Grape candy?</p> | |||
<p>Jagadīśa: No. Fruit.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary191977Bhuvanesvara_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="32" link="Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gargamuni: No, in Karachi. A very huge market. They have, very good, these grapefruits. They're very sweet there.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Grape.</p> | |||
<p>Gargamuni: Grapefruit. You know, like orange?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, ah.</p> | |||
<p>Gargamuni: But very sweet tasting.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> | |||
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<div id="EveningDarsanaMay121977Hrishikesh_2" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="168" link="Evening Darsana -- May 12, 1977, Hrishikesh" link_text="Evening Darsana -- May 12, 1977, Hrishikesh"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- May 12, 1977, Hrishikesh|Evening Darsana -- May 12, 1977, Hrishikesh]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: More than. Prakṛṣṭa-rūpeṇa mattaḥ. Mattaḥ means mad, drunkard, and pramattaḥ means more than mad. So generally people, they have become mad after sense enjoyment. Everyone is busy for sense enjoyment. This is material life. And when they are fed up, no more available, so they become tyāgī-frustration that "Grapes are sour." The jackal jumped over to get the grapes, but when he could not obtain it, then he rejects, "Ah, what is use of the grapes? It is sour." So karmīs, they are pramattaḥ, mad after enjoying, and jñānīs, being fed up, they say, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā: "The world is useless." So this is going on. The karmīs, they want to enjoy this material world, and the jñānīs, they are little advanced. They are... They are fed up, rather. They want to enjoy by becoming one with the Supreme. So there is want. The karmīs want to enjoy this world, and the jñānīs want also. That is demand, mukti. Mukti means to become one with the Supreme Brahman.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationOctober151977Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="254" link="Room Conversation -- October 15, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- October 15, 1977, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- October 15, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- October 15, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You can just drink.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, I can.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very good. So, can I see that book? So about in a half hour we can give you some juice maybe? Grape juice? Do you like grape juice?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Whatever you give me, I will take.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. We'll just talk amongst ourselves and decide what you should take.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: But don't give much.</p> | |||
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2> | |||
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<div id="1967_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Correspondence" text="1967 Correspondence"><h3>1967 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoJayanandaDelhi29September1967_0" class="quote" parent="1967_Correspondence" book="Let" index="156" link="Letter to Jayananda -- Delhi 29 September, 1967" link_text="Letter to Jayananda -- Delhi 29 September, 1967"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Jayananda -- Delhi 29 September, 1967|Letter to Jayananda -- Delhi 29 September, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When a person fails to become the Lord of the universe it is like the sly fox who attempts to taste grapes and failing to do so says the grapes are sour. The mayavadi sannyasins are frustrated beings in their attempt to enjoy the world, therefore they say the world is fake or the grapes are sour, the world is not false, Krishna is the supreme truth and the world is His energy therefore the energy of the supreme truth cannot be false; but we must know that this energy is inferior to His spiritual energy. As there are hairs and nails on the body and sometimes we separate these parts from the body similarly when the the material energy is separated from the service of the Lord it is inferior energy.</p> | |||
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Robert -- Mayapur 8 March, 1976|Letter to Robert -- Mayapur 8 March, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You mention that the scientists try "to simplify the problem at hand by neglecting any complex factors that may be present." What is that simplification? That there is no God. Their position is "sour grapes." They try by their speculation to understand things, and being unable they say there is no God. So we can use this science to defeat them, just as I have many other disciples, such as Svarupa Damodara. He is Ph.D. in Chemistry and now he is using his scientific background to defeat their atheistic arguments.</p> | |||
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Srimad-Bhagavatam
SB Canto 3
The forests on the shore of the Yamunā are all beautiful gardens full of trees of mango, jackfruit, apples, guava, oranges, grapes, berries, palmfruit and so many other plants and fragrant flowers. And because the forest was on the bank of the Yamunā, naturally there were ducks, cranes and peacocks on the branches of the trees. All these trees and birds and beasts were pious living entities born in the transcendental abode of Vṛndāvana just to give pleasure to the Lord and His eternal associates, the cowherd boys.
SB Canto 8
In a valley of Trikūṭa Mountain there was a garden called Ṛtumat. This garden belonged to the great devotee Varuṇa and was a sporting place for the damsels of the demigods. Flowers and fruits grew there in all seasons. Among them were mandāras, pārijātas, pāṭalas, aśokas, campakas, cūtas, piyālas, panasas, mangoes, āmrātakas, kramukas, coconut trees, date trees and pomegranates. There were madhukas, palm trees, tamālas, asanas, arjunas, ariṣṭas, uḍumbaras, plakṣas, banyan trees, kiṁśukas and sandalwood trees. There were also picumardas, kovidāras, saralas, sura-dārus, grapes, sugarcane, bananas, jambu, badarīs, akṣas, abhayas and āmalakīs.
Sri Caitanya-caritamrta
CC Antya-lila
“Among the fruits were many varieties of coconuts and mangoes, bananas, berries, jackfruits, dates, tangerines, oranges, blackberries, santarās, grapes, almonds and all kinds of dried fruit."
Other Books by Srila Prabhupada
Renunciation Through Wisdom
Lectures
Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures
So if you take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then these are the result. Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhāḥ (BG 2.56). Krodha means when we cannot satisfy our senses in the... We try to satisfy our senses... Just like the jackal. He wanted to eat some grapes, but jumping, jumping, he could not get. Then, in krodha, he says, "Oh, it is useless. It is sour. We don't want." So this krodha, in the absence of sense gratification, there is krodha. Kāma eṣa krodha eṣa rajo-guṇa-samudbhavaḥ.
If you want real love, real position, then you have to transfer your, these loving propensities in five different kinds of mellows to Kṛṣṇa. Then it will be permanent, and you'll be happy.
Don't reject this as, because you could not capture the grapes, then the grapes and the jackals. The jackal... You know that story. The jackal went to steal some grapes in the orchard, and it was very high. He jumped over several times. He could not get it. Then he rejected, "Oh, this is sour. I don't want it."
Similarly, this Māyāvādī philosophy is like that. First of all he wants to become very big man, very big businessman, minister, this, that, to enjoy, simply enjoy, competition of enjoyment. But when he's baffled, when he did not enjoy, simply suffered—he comes to his knowledge that "I could not enjoy; I simply suffered"—then "It is mithyā. Grapes are sour." That philosophy will not do. You must know that this prakṛti, this material world, you are not enjoyer. The enjoyer is Kṛṣṇa. Sarva-loka-maheśvaram (BG 5.29).
Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures
One is very, very busy for acquiring things for enjoy, sense enjoyment, and when he's dissatisfied, he cannot fully enjoy, neither he's satisfied, he says, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, "This world is false. There is no need of this world. The grapes are sour." The same story. The jackal and the grapes. A jackal wanted to eat the grapes, and it jumped many times, but could not approach the grapes. So at last he satisfied himself that "There is no need of the grapes. It is sour." So this brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā is like that. When one is fed up or tired of this world, he cannot enjoy it due to age or other circumstances, at that time, he says, jagan mithyā. Why jagan mithyā? If God is truth, then creation of God is also truth. Why it should be mithyā? But because he has no knowledge, sufficient knowledge of the Vedic instruction, īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam, pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate (ISO 1), he does not know that creation of God is complete.
One thinks, "Oh, why shall I touch it? Somebody's... Let it remain there. I have no, nothing to do." This is called tyāga, giving up. So the hundred dollar note is the same. One is trying to enjoy it, and one is trying to give it up: "I don't care for it." So both of them are fools, bhogī and tyāgī. Bhogī means the karmīs. The karmīs, those who are working very hard, utilizing... The scientists are utilizing the resources, material resources. That means all are making policy how to steal that note. That is their policy, the karmīs. And another, while he was unable to steal, he says, "Oh, grapes are sour. There is no need of..." That is tyāgī.
Just like we were discussing in this beach morning about the spiritual world. Spiritual world is exactly like the material world, varieties. There is also house. There is also tree. There is also road. There is also chariot. There is... Everything is there—but without inebriety, without inebriety. There, cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr abhipālayantam (Bs. 5.29). For example, just like there is tree also. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa. But they, those trees are not like this tree. Suppose you, here, you want some fruit, say mango. You go to the mango tree, you taking mango, at the same time desire, "Why not little grapes?" But this mango tree cannot supply you grapes. But in the spiritual world you are eating mango, at the same time, if you desire grapes, the same tree will supply you. This is called desire tree. And... Some ideas of the spiritual world are there in the... Just like here, for light, you require sunlight, moonlight. But in the spiritual world, there is no need of sunlight, moonlight, because everyone is effulgent. By his own light he can see everything.
You cannot manufacture this nice fruit. It is not in your power. You may be very much expert in conducting a big factory for manufacturing these motorcars, but it is not possible for you to manufacture these nice grapes or oranges or banana or rice. No. That is not in your power. Therefore a sane man should admit that "This is sent by God." This is common sense. What is beyond your power... If you say it is product of nature... What do you mean by nature? Nature means an energy which is acting under the direction of God. That is nature. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā: mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram (BG 9.10).
So universe is not so small that you can ride on your 747 and go. (laughter) It is not so easy. It is not so easy. So therefore, from the circumstances, we can conclude that they could not approach the moon planet. And now they are saying that "It is useless. There is no need of going there. The grapes are sour." (laughter) The jackal jumping, jumping, jumping. When he could not get the grapes, then he is rejecting, "Oh, this is sour. It is no use." So after jumping so many years and spending so much money, they are now rejecting: "The moon planet is not habitable." But we get there. This is one of the heavenly planets, and it is habitable by the most advanced pious men. So these are the difference.
Everyone, from the morning to night, they are simply trying how to enjoy the material world: "How to enjoy? How to enjoy?" This is called karma-jñāna. When they are fed up, then "the grapes are sour." They give up: brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. But that will not stay. If you... Even if you give up for the time being, that jagat mithyā—"We have no business with the jagat"—it may be sentimentally enduring for some time, but because you are not purified, therefore Bhāgavata says, ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa vimukta-māninas tvayy asta-bhāvād aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ (SB 10.2.32). Simply to understand that "I am not this material body, so I have nothing to do with this body, and I am spirit soul," simply this much knowledge is not perfect.
Nectar of Devotion Lectures
The material world, because everything is temporary, so sometimes when we are fed up with material activities, we stop to do it and become a renouncer. Bhoga-tyāga. "Grapes are sour." You know the story. A jackal entered into a vine orchard, and it was very high. It began to jump to get the grapes, but when he failed, he said, "Oh, these grapes are sour. It is nonsense." (laughter) The karmīs are like that, that they work very hard, but they cannot relish any permanent happiness. That is not possible. Therefore they give up. Brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. They give up these worldly activities as false. Jagan mithyā. But they do not relish anything. Actually they do not relish what is Brahma-sukha. Therefore again they fall down.
The difference is that a devotee relishes a particular type of mellow, rasa, in this material world. But the, those who are not devotees, they do not feel any relish from this material world. They feel for some time, but when it becomes stale in their taste, they say, "It is false." Just like the same example: The jackal first of all tried to get the grapes, jumping, jumping, and when it was a failure, he said, "Oh, the grapes are sour. I don't require." So except devotee... The nondevotees, the karmīs, jñānīs, yogis, they actually do not relish the sweetness of the creation of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore Bhāgavata says, ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa vimukta-māninaḥ. "So persons who are thinking that they have become liberated by their own ways," ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa, ye 'nye 'ravindākṣa vimukta-māninaḥ tvay asta-bhāvād aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ (SB 10.2.32), "actually they have not tasted the Absolute Truth. Therefore their intelligence is not yet purified." Aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ.
This is stated, the asuric vicāra. "Today I have got so much money. And tomorrow I am going to increase it to so much." Ko 'sti āḍhyo 'yam. "I am the richest." This is karmī's conception. And jñānīs, because they're fed up, so they say, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā: "This world is false." Grapes are sour. You know the story, jackal? He wanted to take the grapes, jumping, jumping, jumping. When he could not get it, he says, "Oh, grapes are sour. I have no necessity. I have no necessity." Similarly these rascals, they renounce the world. What renouncement? What you had? You are renouncing? This is also wrong. The real happiness is sevā. "This is Kṛṣṇa's, and it must be used for Kṛṣṇa's purpose." That is real happiness. Actual, that is the fact.
General Lectures
Everyone takes birth as human being, but he does not know how to utilize it. He utilizes it just like animal. The animal eats; we simply make arrangement of eating unnaturally. That is our advancement. In the animal kingdom, every particular animal has got a particular type of food. Just like tiger. A tiger eats flesh and blood, but if you give tiger nice oranges or grapes, he'll not touch it, because that is not his food. Similarly, a hog. A hog eats stool. If you give the hog nice halavā, it will not touch. You see? So every particular animal has got a particular type of food.
I say brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, "This world is false. Now I shall become Brahman, the Supreme Brahman. I shall merge into Brahman." This is... Just like the grapes are sour. The jackal and the orchard... You have knowledge of this story. This jackal wanted to capture the grapes, and when he could not capture, he gives it up: "Oh, the grapes are sour. It is no use." Similarly, first of all we try to become master—master of family, master of society, master of community, master of nation, master of international figure—and when you're baffled, then you give up this world. So-called give up. We cannot give up. But we say brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, "This world is false, and now brahma is satya; therefore I shall become Brahman." You are already Brahman. Why you shall become? You're already Brahman, because you are part and parcel of God. God is Brahman, Parabrahman, and you are Brahman also.
Departure Talks
Just like these moon-planet-goers, they attempted many times jumping, but they could not get any shelter. They have come back again. Now they have I think left off. What is that? "Grapes are sour." After jumping, jumping, the jackal, when he could not get the grapes, then he says that "Grapes are sour." That is... (laughter) "No need." So these so-called scientists, after jumping like the jackal, could not get any place in the moon planet, and they have come down again. It is not possible. You cannot go to any of the planets, although they are material. You cannot... Just like you cannot go to any country without getting the visa permit, similarly... There are many planets. They are open for your entrance, but not in that way, that by force you will go. That is not possible.
Philosophy Discussions
Conversations and Morning Walks
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Ambassador: Tryamṛta is sugar and honey and...
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Ambassador: ...sugar and grapes.
Prabhupāda: Pañcāmṛta, we have got.
Ambassador: Hmm...
Prabhupāda: Tryamṛta.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: What is life cannot be proved by experiments. So it is not necessary to talk about life now.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Grapes are sour. (devotees laugh) The jackal's philosophy. The jackal came in the orchard of grapes and tried to take some grapes. He jumped many times, and when he failed, "Oh, there is no necessity, it is sour." It is jackal's philosophy. Sly fox.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They want things by experimental knowledge, and when they fail it, they say it is nothing.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is voidism. First of all they try to enjoy. When they fail... The jackal in the orchard first of all tried to get the grapes, jumping, jumping, jumping. When he could not get, then he said, "Oh it is sour. Don't require..." (laughter) They will say, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā: "This is all false. Let us go to Brahman." This is their philosophy. First of all they try as karmī, brmmmmmmm. (Prabhupāda makes loud car sound) (laughter) When all these brm brm brm, life after life, when he finds that there is nothing, "Oh, it is all false. Grapes are sour." Jackal jumping. There is need of God. You can write article.
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Devotee: Leonardo da Vinci.
Yogeśvara: He's Italian.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is said that he was very poor man. So he painted in a fruitshop grapes.
Devotees: Cezanne.
Prabhupāda: Ah. So the crows came to pick up the grapes, and the king was passing, he picked up, "Oh, who is that artist?" He became rich man in association. No, I have seen in that hall. So first-class picture. I have never seen such nice picture. Exactly life.
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Bali-mardana: They want to send a satellite to the other planets.
Prabhupāda: Moon finished?
Bali-mardana: Yes, it is not good for... It is too much money. They cannot afford it.
Guru kṛpā: It's nothing but rocks anyway there. They think it is nothing but rocks so why waste time, go to some other place.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Grapes are sour.
Guru kṛpā: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Jackal. Jackal and the grapes. The grapes were high. First of all jumped, jumping. Then, when he could not get it, "This is useless. It is sour."
Devotee (1): They didn't reach moon at all.
Prabhupāda: At all. Jumping, jumping, the jackal says, "Oh, it is no use. It is sour."
Prabhupāda: Well, when there is killing, it is not that the pious men... But mostly they were saved. The Pāṇḍavas were saved. The five brothers, they remained. Now the moon is sour. Grapes are sour? (laughter) The jackal jumped over to catch some grapes, and when he fell, "Eh, what is the use of grapes? It is sour." The jackal said. So this is... Now they say there is, that is not good for him. "Let us go to Venus. (laughter) Moon is sour." And why you spent so much money? (break) ...stone man has come. That is the museum.
Prabhupāda: You see that it is on the mouth, but one is feeling pleasure, and one is feeling finished. (laughter)
Yadubara: The materialists say that it's very morbid to talk so much about death. They say it is very depressing to speak so much about death.
Prabhupāda: Because they are rascals, they cannot conquer. Everyone doesn't like death, but because they cannot conquer, they say like that, "Grapes are sour. Don't bother." After jumping, jumping, jumping, when the grapes were not available, "It is sour, no use."
Prabhupāda: Then why you are trying to get out of suffering? Suffer, rascal. Why you are trying to get out of suffering. Why?
Brahmānanda: Because they don't like it. But they say you have to accept it.
Prabhupāda: Then, if you say... If it is a part of life, why don't you like it? Suffer. Go on suffering. You are accepting as part of life because you cannot get out of it. "The grapes are sour." That's all. After jumping, jumping, jumping, when it is not available, "Oh, the grapes are sour. It is no... There is no necessity." Jackal's philosophy.
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: And then they want to say that this is mithyā, that Kṛṣṇa consciousness is mithyā.
Prabhupāda: Whatever they say, practically see.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Yes. They do not know how to use the cow, only kill.
Devotee (4): You said that is the sour grape philosophy.
Prabhupāda: Grape philosophy, what is that?
Hari-śauri: Sour grape.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: The fox...
Prabhupāda: Ah.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: ...wanted to taste the grapes, but he couldn't, so he said they are no good.
Prabhupāda: You can drop many bombs in the Sahara desert. Who cares? Who cares for that? (laughter)
Jayatīrtha: Prabhupāda said they were actually in Arizona. This Mars capsule has landed in Arizona.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Why bomb? "Grapes are sour."
Bhagavān: To measure something.
Prabhupāda: Whatever they measure, they are useless. What they'll gain by dropping a bomb?
Hari-śauri: We have some grapes. Shall I get them?
Prabhupāda: Grapes, sometimes they are sour. What other?
Hari-śauri: Pears, apples, bananas, watermelon.
Prabhupāda: Banana is very good. And give me apples.
Hari-śauri: Pear also?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: I'll try the grapes. If they are not sour, I'll bring some.
Devotee (1): This is from the previous owner, Prabhupāda. He's agreed to take the grapes away. He is simply finding another place for them. It's part of the contract we made with him that he had to move them.
Prabhupāda: This land?
Bhagavān: That is the proprietor's land on this side.
Prabhupāda: And he does not find any land to move the grapes.
Bhagavān: What was that, Śrīla Prabhupāda? He has so much land?
Devotee (1): There is a law by which it's very difficult to move grapes anywhere. So he's trying to get permission from the maire to do it.
Prabhupāda: You grow banana?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: No, the banana is imported.
Parivrājakācārya: From South America, they bring bananas.
Prabhupāda: Grapes? Grapes you have got.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Grapes, apple. Where is your eldest child?
Nandarāṇī: This is Candramukhī.
Prabhupāda: Oh. I saw you in Los Angeles?
Prabhupāda: Whatever Mars going? Finished.
Hari-śauri: Yes. They don't put anything about it now.
Guest: (Hindi conversation)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Grapes are sour. Full of sand. (Hindi conversation) (break)
Devotee: ...thirty-six thousand students so it's in a very, very nice area, just for the type of people we'd like to reach, you know, intelligent. And also it's a... Actually what it is, it's a motel that's had its, you know, it has no business there. It's surrounded by other more expensive...
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Mango candy? (Hari-śauri opens door and asks in another compartment)
Hari-śauri: Pradyumna, have you got some mango candy?
Jagadīśa: There are grapes also.
Prabhupāda: Grape candy?
Jagadīśa: No. Fruit.
Gargamuni: No, in Karachi. A very huge market. They have, very good, these grapefruits. They're very sweet there.
Prabhupāda: Grape.
Gargamuni: Grapefruit. You know, like orange?
Prabhupāda: Oh, ah.
Gargamuni: But very sweet tasting.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: More than. Prakṛṣṭa-rūpeṇa mattaḥ. Mattaḥ means mad, drunkard, and pramattaḥ means more than mad. So generally people, they have become mad after sense enjoyment. Everyone is busy for sense enjoyment. This is material life. And when they are fed up, no more available, so they become tyāgī-frustration that "Grapes are sour." The jackal jumped over to get the grapes, but when he could not obtain it, then he rejects, "Ah, what is use of the grapes? It is sour." So karmīs, they are pramattaḥ, mad after enjoying, and jñānīs, being fed up, they say, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā: "The world is useless." So this is going on. The karmīs, they want to enjoy this material world, and the jñānīs, they are little advanced. They are... They are fed up, rather. They want to enjoy by becoming one with the Supreme. So there is want. The karmīs want to enjoy this world, and the jñānīs want also. That is demand, mukti. Mukti means to become one with the Supreme Brahman.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You can just drink.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I can.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very good. So, can I see that book? So about in a half hour we can give you some juice maybe? Grape juice? Do you like grape juice?
Prabhupāda: Whatever you give me, I will take.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. We'll just talk amongst ourselves and decide what you should take.
Prabhupāda: But don't give much.
Correspondence
1967 Correspondence
When a person fails to become the Lord of the universe it is like the sly fox who attempts to taste grapes and failing to do so says the grapes are sour. The mayavadi sannyasins are frustrated beings in their attempt to enjoy the world, therefore they say the world is fake or the grapes are sour, the world is not false, Krishna is the supreme truth and the world is His energy therefore the energy of the supreme truth cannot be false; but we must know that this energy is inferior to His spiritual energy. As there are hairs and nails on the body and sometimes we separate these parts from the body similarly when the the material energy is separated from the service of the Lord it is inferior energy.
1976 Correspondence
You mention that the scientists try "to simplify the problem at hand by neglecting any complex factors that may be present." What is that simplification? That there is no God. Their position is "sour grapes." They try by their speculation to understand things, and being unable they say there is no God. So we can use this science to defeat them, just as I have many other disciples, such as Svarupa Damodara. He is Ph.D. in Chemistry and now he is using his scientific background to defeat their atheistic arguments.