Prabhupāda: It is very difficult for the Western people to give up all these four principles of life, because these things are ordinary dealings. Here people are accustomed to all these habits from the very beginning. Even one very big man, Lord Zetland . . .
(aside) Who is talking?
Devotee: I'm asking them . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Oh. So one of our Godbrothers, he went to London and he met Lord Zetland. He got some introduction letter from India. This Lord Zetland, sometimes he was governor of Bengal. So when we were student, he came to our college. He was very learned philosopher; especially he was lover of Indian philosophy. So that my Godbrother saw the Marquis of Zetland, he inquired that, "Swāmījī, can you make me a brahmin?" He said: "Why not? We can make you brahmin." "So what is to be done?" So he asked him that, "You give up these four principles of sinful life: no illicit sex, no gambling, no meat-eating and no intoxication." So he immediately replied, "Impossible. Impossible. This is not possible for us. This is our life. We cannot give up this." So that Swāmījī replied, "Then you cannot become a brahmin." This is the principle.