Man (3): Each of us have come here tonight sort of looking for a bit of a miracle or a bit of a statement that can stamp us, to hold us, to illuminate us. (devotees laugh) Now, you travel in a spirit. Can you tell us the wonderful feeling of enlightenment to enter this spirit? We don't know how to exactly enter this spirit and travel as you travel.
Prabhupāda: That I am distributing. You chant at home, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare, and see the result. (laughter) It is not difficult. If there is no expenditure, there is no loss if you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra and you see the result at home. You haven't got to travel. You sit down at your home and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Man (3): The word travel . . . illumination. Each of us wants to know that beautiful, glorious feeling and how we gain it.
Prabhupāda: That glorious . . . first of all we must know what we are. The mistake is that we are accepting this body as ourself. I am thinking Indian, you are thinking Australian, he is thinking American, he is thinking Muhammadan, he is thinking Hindu. In this way, because we are thinking different way, we have got difference of opinion. But as soon as we come to the spiritual platform, there will be no more different opinion. That we are trying, that come to the spiritual platform. Then everything will go on. The first lesson of coming to the spiritual platform is to understand that "I am not this body." This the first lesson of spiritual understanding.
Man (4): I've read about Hubbard's Scientology, and a lot of the writings that Hubbard writes sound a lot like the theory of Hare Kṛṣṇa. Is there any parallel at all between the two, or have you taken any opinion on side, both your cases? You know anything about that?
Madhudviṣa: He is saying is there any similarities between the philosophy of Scientology . . .
Prabhupāda: What is that Scientology? I do not know. (laughter) (applause) I do not know. Can you explain what is this Scientology?
Man (4): It's just a teaching that's supposed to be fairly widespread. (laughter)
Madhudviṣa: Yes?
Man (5): Can you give any explanation about the spiritual, around the earth? If they are all luminous?
Madhudviṣa: He wants to know something about psychic phenomena.
Prabhupāda: Psychic phenomena is the subtle materialism. There are two material conditions: one gross condition, one subtle condition. Gross condition is created by the five elements—earth, water, fire, air and ether. And the subtle elements are mind, intelligence and ego, false ego.