Devotee: If a person's senses are restrained by following regulative principles, but if his mind dwells in sense objects, is he becoming purified, or is he just a pretender.
Prabhupāda: Strained?
Devotee: Restrained, controlled.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee: If the senses are controlled, but his mind is contemplating sense objects, is he a pretender or is he becoming purified?
Prabhupāda: No, no. By controlling the senses, gradually the mind will be controlled. You know. In the..., the tiger and the lion trained up to play in the circus, do you know how it is done?