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• 13:34, 7 August 2011 MadhuGopaldas talk contribs moved page Srila Prabhupada, you say in your books so many times that somehow or other we have fallen into this material world due to our enviousness or our independence? to Srila Prabhupada, you say in your books so many times that somehow or other we have fallen into this material world due to our enviousness or our independence?... I can't seem to get a grasp on this at all?