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- 13:12, 24 October 2011 MadhuGopaldas talk contribs moved page Is that (in the morning, as soon as you get up, you remember that you have to do so many things. That means it was already there.) just like the impersonalists? They go up into the brahma-jyotir, but they have desire. So they have to come back down to Is that (in the morning, as soon as you get up, you remember that you have to do so many things. That means it was already there) just like the impersonalists? They go up into the brahma-jyotir, but they have desire. So they have to come back down