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• 14:20, 11 January 2012 MadhuGopaldas talk contribs moved page But is it the guru? Does the guru give him that sense? to But is it the guru? Does the guru give him that sense (when one is actually in service, then he comes to.... "So I have enjoyed. Now, no I don't want. Now I want Kṛṣṇa." That is voluntary)?