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• 09:57, 2 July 2012 Labangalatika talk contribs moved page The conditioned jiva suffers from the material disease-the miseries of birth, death, old age and disease. When this suffering becomes unbearable, he looks for help to The conditioned jiva suffers from the material disease - the miseries of birth, death, old age and disease. When this suffering becomes unbearable, he looks for help