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• 13:02, 6 May 2017 Visnu Murti talk contribs moved page Just try to understand like this. Here (material world) everything is by the expansion of Krsna's material energy. And there (spiritual world), everything is there by His spiritual energy. That's all to Just try to understand like this. Here (in the material world) everything is by the expansion of Krsna's material energy. And there (in the spiritual world), everything is there by His spiritual energy. That's all