Indian Guest: They say that sun is rotating because . . . (indistinct) . . . all the time.
Prabhupāda: That is a fact.
Indian Guest: That's a fact. Is it in śāstra, Swāmī?
Prabhupāda: Everything is clear, will become clear.
Indian Guest: Is it that śāstra somewhere?
Prabhupāda: Because everything comes as a seed, then it becomes developed. That is the way of material things.
Hanumān: So this planet also, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hanumān: It came out of a seed, and then it grows with all the . . . oh.
Indian Guest: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Yes. Eight million.
Hanumān: And this evolution process, is it different living entity among the 8,400,000 species who came, and gradually, until men came? Or man was always here?
Prabhupāda: Man was always here.
Hanumān: Man was always on this planet.
Prabhupāda: May not be in this planet, but there was always. Because just like in New Zealand, there was no men . . . (indistinct) . . . the Europeans came later on. So it was not so full of life, but there was a class of men. All others, animals, were there, trees were there.
Indian Guest: But so many . . . (indistinct) . . . have a high temperature of fifty million centigrade, and it does not remain in solid or liquid form. It becomes a gas, a vapor, completely. Now how . . .?
Prabhupāda: Therefore gaseous body.
Indian Guest: Gaseous body. That is what I mean; there must be some gaseous body.
Hanumān: And the scientists, they also say that in twenty-five years from now, whatever they contrive to do they will not be able to feed all the people of this planet. They can try to . . .
Prabhupāda: At the end of it, everything has changed; therefore they can speak.