Prabhupāda: First of all, what you know about the greater? Because you want to be greater than the greatest, what is your imagination of greatest?
Guest (2): This is the point I make, is that there is no way in time where imagination really counts . . .
Prabhupāda: Therefore you can become greater than the greatest as far as your imagination goes.
Guest (2): Then this is what a Kṛṣṇa person has to imagine.
Prabhupāda: Ah?
Guest (2): If they want to . . .
Prabhupāda: A Kṛṣṇa conscious person doesn't imagine anything.
Guest (2): If Kṛṣṇa is greater than the greatest . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. But Kṛṣṇa says that He is the greater than the greatest, we accept it; we don't imagine.
Guest (2): We can accept it all right, but what about a human being . . .
Prabhupāda: . . . human being, he?
Guest (2): . . . who want to be greater than the greatest or smaller than the smallest . . .
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Guest (2): A human being has imagination, doesn't he? Doesn't he?
Prabhupāda: We're not following imagination. Why don't you understand this? We are taking the words of God. This is not my imagination.
Guest (2): No, I'm not saying it is.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): It is my imagination.
Prabhupāda: No, not . . . neither your imagination. It is the definition given by God. Therefore we accept it.
Guest (2): Why?
Prabhupāda: Why? Because we have to accept; otherwise there is no other way.
Guest (2): A human being doesn't have to accept anything.
Prabhupāda: Yes. You are accepting the kicking of material nature, are you not, by your becoming older? You are accepting. When there will be death, you will be accepting. You have to accept.
Guest (2): Hmm.
Prabhupāda: By force.
Guest (2): This is a thing that bothers me. (laughter) It's by force. They have humanity ah, I agree now. I see exactly where you're coming from.
Prabhupāda: Thank you. Don't put any more questions. (laughter)
Guest (2): No more. (laughter) I'll uncross my legs. (end)