Madhudviṣa: He is saying that in your teachings you say the sun is the only self-illuminous body in the universe, whereas the scientists say that there is many millions of stars that are in the sky that are also self-illuminous.
Prabhupāda: No. We say that there are innumerable universes. We say.
Man (2): But in this particular universe, we're talking about.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
- Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi.
- (Bs 5.40)
(I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose effulgence is the source of the nondifferentiated Brahman mentioned in the Upaniṣads, being differentiated from the infinity of glories of the mundane universe appears as the indivisible, infinite, limitless, truth.)
Jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi. Jagad-aṇḍa means universe, and koṭi means millions. So there are millions and millions of universes, and in each universe there are millions and millions of planets. Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi-koṭiṣv aśeṣa-vasudhādi-vibhūti-bhinnam (Bs 5.40). And each planet is differently constituted. The atmosphere of each planet is different from another. This is God's creation. Now as there are innumerable universes, there may be innumerable suns also.
Man (2): Yeah, but they say that's in this universe . . .
Prabhupāda: Just try to understand. Because there are innumerable universes, and in each and every universe there is a sun, there is a moon, there is Venus, everything, so under the circumstances, as we accept innumerable universes, automatically we accept innumerable suns. So where is the difference between the astrologer and our . . .
Man (2): The astronomers also accept that there are innumerable universes, and they say that in each one they have millions and millions of self-luminous stars, and in this one also, but you say that in this one there is only the sun.
Prabhupāda: But do you think that I have to accept the astronomers blindly?