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Wherever there are these talented persons (Brahmana, Ksatriya, Vaisya), he is to be considered as first-class man. He does not say that, "If it is found among the Hindus or amongst the Christian . . ." No. These modes of material nature, is all-pervasive

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

Wherever there are these talented person, he is to be considered as first-class man. He does not say that, "If it is found among the Hindus or amongst the Christian . . ." No. Anywhere. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). These guṇa, these modes of material nature, is all-pervasive. So even in India they protest, because I am making them brahmin. My disciples, they're offered sacred thread. They're regularly made into brahmin.

Prabhupāda: The principles, as they are stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, it is not limited within Christian or Communist or capitalist.

Reverend Powell: No.

Prabhupāda: No. The principle . . . wherever there are these talented person, he is to be considered as first-class man. He does not say that, "If it is found among the Hindus or amongst the Christian . . ." No. Anywhere. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). These guṇa, these modes of material nature, is all-pervasive. So even in India they protest, because I am making them brahmin. My disciples, they're offered sacred thread. They're regularly made into brahmin. So the Indian, in India, they're very conservative, perverted. So they accuse that "Swami Mahārāja is spoiling the Hindu system of religion because he's accepting brahmin from outside." So actually they're also not aware . . . creation of God . . . here God says that "I have created." So God's creation is not limited. Suppose the sun is creation of God. It is not for India or for Australia—it is for everyone.

So whatever created by God, that is not monopoly of a certain class of men. Yes. This is the idea. So these people, they do not know what is the meaning of a Vaiṣṇava or brahmin. That is not limited with a certain circle or certain country or certain society. Just like Christ says: "Thou shall not kill." This is applicable to every man, not only that the Christians should follow. Unfortunately, even the Christians, they do not follow. They are killing. So how there can be religious life? Unless you follow the rules and regulations given by the authority, then where is the meaning of becoming within that community?

Reverend Powell: Yes.