Prabhupāda: So one is accepted as atheist who does not believe in the tenets of the Vedas. That is the sum and substance of atheism. It may be a sound philosophy or whatever it may be, but atheism, one who does not believe in the authority of the Vedas, they are called atheist.
Guest: What would you say is the completion of all design for matter or for human being, and particularly for human being and matter in general, the completion of all design?
Prabhupāda: Matter?
Guest: I said, what is the completion of all becoming, final goal, for a human being and for matter in general?
Prabhupāda: Yes.