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How do you convince a person that they are suffering, when they're saying they are happy and not afraid to die?

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"How do you convince a person who says..., that they are suffering, when they're actually, when they're saying they are happy and not afraid to die"

Lectures

Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

He is a madman. (laughter) That's all. Who is caring for madman's word?
Lecture on SB 6.1.3 -- Melbourne, May 22, 1975:

Guest (2): How do you convince a person who says..., that they are suffering, when they're actually, when they're saying they are happy and not afraid to die?

Madhudvīṣa: Someone who is not afraid to die and says that he's not suffering, how do...

Prabhupāda: He is a madman. (laughter) That's all. Who is caring for madman's word?