Prabhupāda: So that is not your rascal's imagination. It is spoken by the Lord Himself. Mamaivāṁśaḥ. He is not rascal like you, that He will say something which is mistaken.
Acyutānanda: No, that is only during His avatāra He says that.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. He says like that; we have to accept it. Bhagavad-gītā as it is.
Acyutānanda: In the lower stage.
Prabhupāda: Lower stage not.... That is.... You are in the lower stage. You cannot understand. But what He says, that is right. Mamaivāṁśaḥ, sanātana, "eternally amara." It is not that made aṁśa at the present time. Sanātana. From.... From the very beginning.
Acyutānanda: Then it is contradictory.
Prabhupāda: No contradictory. It is not contradictory. He says, mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ (BG 15.7), that "These jīvas, they are eternally My aṁśa." It is not that because now in the material world it has become fragmented.
Acyutānanda: How can there be any truth outside the Lord?
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Acyutānanda: How can there be any truth separate from the Lord, like a gold ring separate from the mine?
Prabhupāda: Yes, but whatever the Lord says, that is truth. Not your statement is truth.