Prabhupāda: Then what is the use?
Govinda dāsī: Yes.
Prabhupāda: We have to stop the manufacturing of ideas. What you have learnt by manufacturing ideas? You hear. Because I do not wish to repeat the same thing. He left everything. He was in charge of the center here, and all of a sudden he left, everything chaotic condition. But I am here to revive that chaotic condition, and now we are in this position. What he has done? And leaving us in such a condition. Is this (indistinct)? He left us and returned to (indistinct). Is it not? So if he leaves us (indistinct). Anyone who leaves us (indistinct). (indistinct) That is a fact. So if he decides with intelligence that “I’ve (indistinct),” that is all right.
Govinda dāsī: Was there any settlement? When he talked to you today, did he indicate that he wanted to come back? Or does he…
Prabhupāda: He does not speak anything. He simply hears. Now you can talk with him. If he actually sticks to our principles, that is Kṛṣṇa's (indistinct); otherwise, let him do whimsical activities his whole life. But these whimsical activities will not help him. Not only he, anyone who does whimsical activities. So many big, big, they have come here. That is not good. (indistinct) If anyone is being whimsical, they will never be liberated. Moghāśā mogha-karmāṇo. Find out this verse.
Devotee: Moghāśā mogha-karmāṇo.
Prabhupāda: Mogha-jñānā vicetasaḥ.
Devotee: (indistinct discussion with another devotee about finding verse)
- moghāśā mogha-karmāṇo
- mogha-jñānā vicetasaḥ
- rākṣasīm āsurīṁ caiva
- prakṛtiṁ mohinīṁ śritāḥ
- (BG 9.12)
“Those who are thus bewildered are attracted by demoniac and atheistic views. In that deluded condition, their hopes for liberation, their fruitive activities and their culture of knowledge are all defeated.’”