Prabhupāda: Now, this picture . . . this is Viṣvarūpa. It was shown to Arjuna. Now, Arjuna, before understanding Bhagavad-gītā, was a fighter, warrior. And after understanding Bhagavad-gītā, he remained a fighter. So we don't want to change the position. Just like you are a respectable professor, teacher. We don't say that you change your position. We have come to convince you about our philosophy. That's all.
So just like the same example: Arjuna, he was denying to fight: "Kṛṣṇa, I do not like to kill my relatives. I don't want this kingdom." But he was taught Bhagavad-gītā. And at the end, when Kṛṣṇa inquired, "What is your decision now?" he said, kariṣye vacanaṁ tava (BG 18.73): "Yes, I shall act accordingly, as You say." That means his consciousness was changed. He remained a fighter. He was a fighter, he remained a fighter, but he changed his consciousness.
We want that. We don't want to disturb the present condition of the society. No. But we try to make them understand that, "There is a great necessity of you to understand this consciousness, Kṛṣṇa consciousness." That is our goal.
Prof. Kotovsky: But at the same time, the final goal of any consciousness is to change society . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prof. Kotovsky: . . . to make a better society. That . . .
Prabhupāda: That is automatically . . .
Prof. Kotovsky: I am not very so happy to hear that your ultimate goal is not to disturb society as such, because in modern society there are many things to be changed . . .
Prabhupāda: That . . .
Prof. Kotovsky: . . . through some consciousness.
Prabhupāda: That preliminary changes . . . just like we prohibit, "Don't take intoxicants."