Prabhupāda: The first-class platform means he does not make any distinction between devotee and nondevotee. He sees everyone is engaged in Kṛṣṇa's service.
Bali-mardana: Does he consciously come from the first class to the second class?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Just like Jesus Christ said that there was many things to be said by, by . . .
Bali-mardana: "There are many things, but I can . . . but you cannot . . . that I have to tell you, but you cannot bear them now."
Prabhupāda: Yes, so that means he's first class, but he comes to the second-class platform or third-class platform to teach the third class, second class. He's first class. Son of God cannot be second class or third class. He must be first class. But . . . just like Lord Buddha. He's God himself, but he said nothing about God because he knew that, "These rascals, they will not be able to . . . let them stop meat-eating, that's all. Let them become sinless first of all; then they will be able . . ." So his main preaching was ahiṁsā, nonviolence, no meat-eating. But still, they violate that. Jesus Christ also preached, "Thou shall not kill," but these rascals, all violating. And still, they are proclaiming as Christian and Buddhist. No religion will, real religion, will allow this kind of violence. No religion. It is cheating religion. Dharmaḥ kaitavaḥ. Any religion committing unnecessary violence to the animals, it is third class. It is not religion, it is cheating. Simply cheating.