Prabhupāda: ...preparation, svarṇa-sindhura.
Bhavānanda: Svarṇa-sindhura?
Prabhupāda: Not makara-dhvaja.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What?
Prabhupāda: Svarṇa-sindhura.
Śatadhanya: That is not makara-dhvaja. It is.
Prabhupāda: Makara-dhvaja is also. That is... My father used to take.
Bhavānanda: Oh. Prabhupāda's father used to take makara-dhvaja.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your father used to take that svarṇa-sindhura?
Prabhupāda: No, makara-dhvaja. The svarṇa-sindhura is cheaper.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That svarṇa-sindhura must be for people who do not have very much money.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This makara-dhvaja is the rich man's medicine.
Bharadvāja: Is it the same kind of medicine?
Śatadhanya: Similar.
Bharadvāja: The svarṇa-sindhura is also similar in effect, for medicine, as medicine?
Prabhupāda: That I do not know. (break)