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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Canto_1" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 1"><h3>SB Canto 1</h3>
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<div id="SB112_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_1" book="SB" index="2" link="SB 1.1.2" link_text="SB 1.1.2">
<div class="heading">When this knowledge is factually understood, one sees the conceptions of monism and dualism to be imperfect.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">This knowledge that the energy of the Lord is simultaneously one with and different from the Lord is an answer to the mental speculators' attempt to establish the energy as the Absolute. When this knowledge is factually understood, one sees the conceptions of monism and dualism to be imperfect. Development of this transcendental consciousness grounded in the conception of simultaneously-one-and-different leads one immediately to the stage of freedom from the threefold miseries.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" class="section" sec_index="2" parent="compilation" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta"><h2>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta</h2>
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<div id="CC_Adi-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Adi-lila"><h3>CC Adi-lila</h3>
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<div id="CCAdi3102_0" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="328" link="CC Adi 3.102" link_text="CC Adi 3.102">
<div class="heading">Conceivable dualism and monism are conceptions of the imperfect senses, which are unable to reach the Transcendence because the Transcendence is beyond the conception of limited potency.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 3.102|CC Adi 3.102, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu preached the philosophy of inconceivable, simultaneous oneness with the Lord and difference from Him. Conceivable dualism and monism are conceptions of the imperfect senses, which are unable to reach the Transcendence because the Transcendence is beyond the conception of limited potency. The actions of Śrī Advaita Prabhu, however, give tangible proof of inconceivable nondualism. One who therefore surrenders unto Śrī Advaita Prabhu can easily follow the philosophy of inconceivable simultaneous dualism and monism.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi7101_1" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1045" link="CC Adi 7.101" link_text="CC Adi 7.101">
<div class="heading">Monist philosophers like Śaṅkarācārya and his followers do not accept the philosophies of the Vaiṣṇava ācāryas, which are known as śuddhādvaita (purified monism), śuddha-dvaita (purified dualism), viśiṣṭādvaita (specific monism), dvaitādvaita (monism and dualism) and acintya-bhedābheda (inconceivable oneness and difference).
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 7.101|CC Adi 7.101, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">According to Sadānanda Yogīndra, the Vedānta-sūtra and Upaniṣads, as presented by Śrī Śaṅkarācārya in his Śārīraka-bhāṣya commentary, are the only sources of Vedic evidence. Actually, however, Vedānta refers to the essence of Vedic knowledge, and it is not a fact that there is nothing more than Śaṅkarācārya's Śārīraka-bhāṣya. There are other Vedānta commentaries, written by Vaiṣṇava ācāryas, none of whom follow Śrī Śaṅkarācārya or accept the imaginative commentary of his school. Their commentaries are based on the philosophy of duality. Monist philosophers like Śaṅkarācārya and his followers want to establish that God and the living entity are one, and instead of worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead they present themselves as God. They want to be worshiped as God by others. Such persons do not accept the philosophies of the Vaiṣṇava ācāryas, which are known as śuddhādvaita (purified monism), śuddha-dvaita (purified dualism), viśiṣṭādvaita (specific monism), dvaitādvaita (monism and dualism) and acintya-bhedābheda (inconceivable oneness and difference). Māyāvādīs do not discuss these philosophies, for they are firmly convinced of their own philosophy of kevalādvaita, exclusive monism. Accepting this system of philosophy as the pure understanding of the Vedānta-sūtra, they believe that Kṛṣṇa has a body made of material elements and that the activities of loving service to Kṛṣṇa are sentimentality. They are known as Māyāvādīs because according to their opinion Kṛṣṇa has a body made of māyā and the loving service of the Lord executed by devotees is also māyā. They consider such devotional service to be an aspect of fruitive activities (karma-kāṇḍa). According to their view, bhakti consists of mental speculation or sometimes meditation. This is the difference between the Māyāvādī and Vaiṣṇava philosophies.</p>
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<div id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" class="section" sec_index="3" parent="compilation" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2>
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<div id="Teachings_of_Lord_Caitanya" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Teachings of Lord Caitanya"><h3>Teachings of Lord Caitanya</h3>
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<div id="TLC23_0" class="quote" parent="Teachings_of_Lord_Caitanya" book="OB" index="29" link="TLC 23" link_text="Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 23">
<div class="heading">Mental speculators mislead people by establishing the energy of the Lord as absolute, but when the truth of simultaneous oneness and difference is understood, the imperfect concepts of monism and dualism cease to satisfy. By understanding the Lord's simultaneous oneness with and difference from His creation, one can immediately attain freedom from the threefold miseries.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:TLC 23|Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 23]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In other words, from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam we can know the substance as well as the relativities in their true sense and perspective. The substance is the Absolute Truth, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the relativities are the different forms of energy which emanate from Him. Since the living entities are also related to His energies, there is nothing really different from the substance. At the same time, the energies are different from the substance. In the material sense, this conception is self-contradictory, but Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam explicitly deals with this aspect of simultaneous oneness and difference. This philosophy is also found in the Vedānta-sūtra beginning with the janmādy asya sūtra. Knowledge of the simultaneous oneness and difference found in the Absolute Truth is imparted for the well-being of everyone. Mental speculators mislead people by establishing the energy of the Lord as absolute, but when the truth of simultaneous oneness and difference is understood, the imperfect concepts of monism and dualism cease to satisfy. By understanding the Lord's simultaneous oneness with and difference from His creation, one can immediately attain freedom from the threefold miseries—miseries inflicted by the body and mind, by other living entities and by acts of nature.</p>
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<div id="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Renunciation Through Wisdom"><h3>Renunciation Through Wisdom</h3>
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<div id="RTW42_0" class="quote" parent="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" book="OB" index="34" link="RTW 4.2" link_text="Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.2">
<div class="heading">Dr. Radhakrishnan has somehow discovered another, second being within Kṛṣṇa. This discovery then converts Dr. Radhakrishnan into a believer in dualism!
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:RTW 4.2|Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.2]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Scholars like Dr. Radhakrishnan should  understand that within Lord Kṛṣṇa there is only Lord Kṛṣṇa and nothing else. Lord Kṛṣṇa's body and soul are the same. The Gītā's conclusion is that the nondual truth is Kṛṣṇa, the absolute Supreme Being. But Dr. Radhakrishnan has somehow discovered another, second being within Kṛṣṇa. This discovery then converts Dr. Radhakrishnan into a believer in dualism! The manifestation of the Absolute Truth who resiedes in every jīva's heart is ludicly described by Lord Kṛṣṇa in Bhagavad-gītā.</p>
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<div id="RTW42_1" class="quote" parent="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" book="OB" index="34" link="RTW 4.2" link_text="Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.2">
<div class="heading">In general, the monists cannot grasp the intricate philosophy of nondualism. So Dr. Radhakrishnan has spun out of his imagination a theory by which he tries to establish dualism in nondualism.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:RTW 4.2|Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.2]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In general, the monists cannot grasp the intricate philosophy of nondualism. So Dr. Radhakrishnan has spun out of his imagination a theory by which he tries to establish dualism in nondualism. When Dr. Radhakrishnan writes that we must surrender to "the Unborn, Beginningless, Eternal who speaks through Kṛṣṇa," he implies that it is the impersonal Brahman within Kṛṣṇa who is speaking about surrender. Once it is established that the impersonal Brahman can speak, then He must also possess the instrument of speech, namely the tongue. Thus we see that Dr. Radhakrishnan's whole concept of impersonalism is immediately undermined. There is sufficient evidence in the scriptures to conclude that one who talks can also walk. And a being capable of speaking and walking must indeed be endowed with all the senses. Then He must also be able to perform other activities, such as eating and sleeping. So how can Dr. Radhakrishnan claim that his beginningless, eternal object is impersonal?</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG4911NewYorkJuly251966_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="152" link="Lecture on BG 4.9-11 -- New York, July 25, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.9-11 -- New York, July 25, 1966">
<div class="heading">This world is of duality. But transcendental means that it is above, above this dualism. It is the absolute world.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.9-11 -- New York, July 25, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.9-11 -- New York, July 25, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore it is stated here that "My appearance, disappearance and activity and glories, they are divyam." Divyam means transcendental. They do not belong to this world of duality. This world is of duality. But transcendental means that it is above, above this dualism. It is the absolute world. So anyone who understands this fact, that Kṛṣṇa is not different from this sound Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa is not different from this Bhagavad-gītā, Kṛṣṇa is not different from anything which is connected with Kṛṣṇa... These things are to be understood.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila8128BhuvanesvaraJanuary241977_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="46" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977">
<div class="heading">Whatever "ism," we are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. So Bhagavad-gītā—ātmā and Paramātmā different.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That's all right. Ātmā is there. You have studied Bhagavad-gītā  or not? First of all tell me. Do you think ātmā and Paramātmā are the same thing?</p>
<p>Guest (5): Mostly the same thing. Yes. (laughter)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is foolishness. That is foolishness. First of all try to understand. That is foolishness. Ātmā and Paramātmā—different.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Advaitavāda, dvaitavāda, viśiṣṭādvaitavāda...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. I am talking of Bhagavad-gītā as it is. Don't bring this vāda, that vāda. In the Bhagavad-gītā the ātmā and Paramātmā is not the same.</p>
<p>Guest (5): No, then, well... We have to accept dualism. There are two...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. Whatever "ism," we are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. So Bhagavad-gītā—ātmā and Paramātmā different.</p>
<p>Guest (5): This ātmā is giving forms to Paramātmā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is foolishness. That is foolishness. In the Bhagavad-gītā that is not stated.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila8128BhuvanesvaraJanuary241977_1" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="46" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977">
<div class="heading">We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (5): In this ātmā, two kṣetrajñas.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In this... Not ātmā. In this body. There are two kṣetrajñas. One is the individual kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Guest (5): But we mean to who is residing in the heart with the ātmā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Then He's kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Who become splitted after our death, that is the kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Then it will be two.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There are two kṣetrajñas: one kṣetrajña, the individual soul, and the other kṣetrajña is Bhagavān. There are two kṣetrajñas. Dvaitavāda.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Yes. Then this monism and dualism, then what about the Viśiṣṭa-advaita?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila251931SanFranciscoJanuary201967_2" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="114" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967">
<div class="heading">Māyāvādī philosophers say it is one, but simply they distinguish, "This is māyā, this is Brahman." Why this is māyā? They say, wherefrom the māyā comes? Then it becomes dualism actually.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So far salvation is concerned, nobody can be liberated without bhakti, without devotional service. Bhakti vinā, without devotion, or without love of Godhead, without attaining... That is the verdict of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. So long one is not a surrendered soul to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, there is no question of liberation from this material world. Bhāgavata says, śreyaḥ-sṛtiṁ bhaktim udasya te vibho. Here's a nice verse from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. It is said there that śreyaḥ-sṛtim, the real path of salvation, śreyaḥ-sṛtim, bhaktim, that is devotional service, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Śreyah-sṛtiṁ bhaktim. Bhaktim udasya te vibho. If somebody gives up the path of devotional service, kliśyanti ye kevala-bodha-labdhaye, and wastes time simply for understanding that "This is not Brahman, this is not Brahman..." That is the way of Māyāvādī philosophers. They scrutinize that "This is māyā and this is Brahman"; therefore they are called Māyāvādīs. Simply, what is not Brahman... They say it is one, but simply they distinguish, "This is māyā, this is Brahman." Why this is māyā? They say, wherefrom the māyā comes? Then it becomes dualism actually. Although they say that "We are monists, one," but they explain that this māyā is illusion. Māyā is temporary, and actually, everything is one. Eko brahma dvitīya nāsti. But the Vaiṣṇava philosophy is that "Yes... It is..." It is called viśiṣṭādvaitavāda. We also say, "Yes, one," but one in variety. There are varieties. We don't say that māyā is something external. Māyā is there. Māyā is there. It is not external. It may be inferior, as it is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā that material energy, the material nature is inferior. That does not mean infer... Some part of my body is inferior. That does not mean it has no existence. It is not mithyā. They say everything mithyā. Mithyā means false. So inferior part of my body there may be, but it is not false. Similarly, the māyā, māyā is not false. It is temporary.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila254050SanFranciscoJanuary241967_3" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="118" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.40-50 -- San Francisco, January 24, 1967" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.40-50 -- San Francisco, January 24, 1967">
<div class="heading">Śaṅkarācārya wanted that there is only one Brahman and we are also Brahman, but he wanted his philosophy of monism. Dualism, God and living entity separate, they do not admit. They admit that God and living entity the same.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.40-50 -- San Francisco, January 24, 1967|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.40-50 -- San Francisco, January 24, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So that disciple of Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī admitted that godlessness in Vedānta-sūtra is not the purpose. Actually, by misinterpreting the Vedānta-sūtra they want to establish that "There is no God; we are God." So after explanation of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, at least there was one convert amongst all the sannyāsīs, and he was glorifying Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Eta sei kare kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtana. And while he was glorifying Lord Caitanya, automatically he began to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. Śuni' prakāśānanda kichu kahena vacana. When his disciple was glorifying Lord Caitanya and His process of teaching, his spiritual master, Prakāśānanda, said like this: ācāryera āgraha-advaita-vāda sthāpite. He admitted... Ācārya means Śaṅkarācārya. He means here Śaṅkarācārya. Śaṅkarācārya wanted that there is only one Brahman and we are also Brahman, but he wanted his philosophy of monism. Dualism, God and living entity separate, they do not admit. They admit that God and living entity the same. It is simply for the time being covered, which is called māyā. Māyāvāda philosophy. So the Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī also admitted that because Śaṅkarācārya wanted to establish his philosophy of monism, therefore he had to cover the real meaning of Vedānta-sūtra.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIrishPoetDesmondOGradyMay231974Rome_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="81" link="Room Conversation with Irish Poet, Desmond O'Grady -- May 23, 1974, Rome" link_text="Room Conversation with Irish Poet, Desmond O'Grady -- May 23, 1974, Rome">
<div class="heading">So long he is in the material world, changing body, transmigrating from one body to another, that is not absolute plane. That is the duality plane, dualism.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Irish Poet, Desmond O'Grady -- May 23, 1974, Rome|Room Conversation with Irish Poet, Desmond O'Grady -- May 23, 1974, Rome]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And that is absolute. When he goes back to home, back to Godhead, that is absolute. So long he is in the material world, changing body, transmigrating from one body to another, that is not absolute plane. That is the duality plane, dualism. When we go back to home, back to..., in the spiritual world, that is absolute.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRogerMarialeadingwriterofcommunistliteratureJune121974Paris_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="112" link="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<div class="heading">Now, dualism means two, and monism is one.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: So what I think this gentleman is explaining is that he finds the idea of non-dualism very attractive because he says that if a real religion is to fulfill it's responsibilities, then it will not try to teach its followers that there are two separate things, there is the creation, and there is you, the creator, that there is you.</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: Creator.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: That there is a creator and then you, but rather, that there is a harmony with the individual being and the totality of existence, not just on an individual religious level, but also socially. So in other words, he's seeing that this advaita philosophy, this non-dual philosophy is very nice on the political or social level as well since it teaches a kind of unity of the individual with everything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is not very clear. (laughs) Now, dualism means two, and monism is one. So he says monism, advaita. So monism, what is the center of monism?</p>
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<div class="heading">So then, then why he raised the question of Absolute Truth, non-dualism, neti neti? This is the discussion of Absolute Truth.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: So he said, what he's suggesting is that first of all, we'd be better off not giving it some kind of concrete form because he thinks ultimately the silence is the best answer.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then let him learn that. If silence is best, then don't talk.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: Well, he says, still, we can give it some form for discussion purposes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then what is his silence? Silence means don't talk. If you prefer silence, then don't talk. (French)</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: He suggests, "Well, In that case, if we're going to discuss the Absolute Truth, then you can say that the ultimate is..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But he raised that Absolute Truth is non-dual.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Non-dual.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: Tat tvam asi. He's saying, "We are that."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So then, then why he raised the question of Absolute Truth, non-dualism, neti neti? This is the discussion of Absolute Truth. So why he says, "For the time being, let us become silent"?</p>
<p>Bhagavān: Yes, he's saying... Oh, it's hard. In other words, he's saying, "Let's get rid of everything that's not the Absolute Truth, and not talk about actually what is the Absolute Truth yet."</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">"I am one," monism. Ekatena tena bauddha visatum aham. That passage comprises all of the philosophies of India. Pantheism, monism, dualism.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Śaṅkarācārya, because he had to deliver people from this nāstika philosophy, bauddha, so for the time being, he made some compromise. The bauddha says there is no God, and he said, "Yes, there is no God. You are God." So if he realizes himself brahma-bhūtaḥ, then he'll be engaged in devotional service, that was his purpose. Unless he says that, that "Yes, it is not the fact that there is no God. There is God, but that God you are."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That is the final argument is that if there is no God, who said there is no God? And that is God. That is what he said.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughing) So you know better than me.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, no. I did not know this, I read it...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But I know, what is his policy? His policy was to make this godless men to think of God, that "I am God." That is.... Let him be accustomed with the word God, then gradually he will understand. It is called ahaṅgrahopāsana. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi. Therefore I shall worship myself. Ahaṅgrahopāsana Nikatena, jagatena, ekatena. It is mentioned in the Bhāgavata, ekatena. That "I am Brahma. So I shall worship myself."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, but he had also mentioned about bhuma puruṣa. That there is really a...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, there is, but this is one of the beginning stage, ekatena. "I am one," monism. Ekatena tena bauddha visatum aham. (indistinct)</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That passage, ekatena bahutena bahuda visato mukham(?) That passage comprises all of the philosophies of India.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Pantheism, monism, dualism.</p>
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<div class="heading">Not dualism. How many isms, nobody knows. But... What is called? Faction. Faction. Everyone is divided from the other. So we should not bring that attitude in our society. That is my request.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 10, 1976, Mayapur|Morning Walk -- March 10, 1976, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: When this paṇḍal is going to be filled up?</p>
<p>Bhavānanda: The exhibits should be arriving today with the devotees, Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who are these men?</p>
<p>Bhavānanda: They are the paṇḍal workers.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Paṇḍal work... (break) Always, what is called...? Communism. They say, whole world, "We are Communists," "We are capitalists," "We are socialists," and "We are nonviolent," "We are violent."</p>
<p>Madhudviṣa: Dualism.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Madhudviṣa: Dualism?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Not dualism. How many isms, nobody knows. But... What is called? Faction. Faction. Everyone is divided from the other.</p>
<p>Madhudviṣa: Yeah.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So we should not bring that attitude in our society. That is my request.</p>
<p>Guru-kṛpā: Envious. They're all envious.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That you should not do. And that unity is possible with, only when harer nāma ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.21|CC Adi 17.21]]) is there constantly. Otherwise, it will be factional. What do you call? Factional is the right word?</p>
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