Category:Our Falldowns (Disciples of SP)
Theme Analysis
Śrīla Prabhupāda was deeply realistic about the profound strength of the material energy and the precarious position of the conditioned soul. He taught his disciples that falldowns in spiritual life are a constant danger because māyā is always waiting for an opportunity to strike. To prevent these falldowns, he provided a watertight formula: strict adherence to the regulative principles, chanting sixteen rounds daily without fail, and remaining tightly within the protective association of the society. He specifically warned against the allurements of illicit sex, mental concoction, and the premature acceptance of the sannyāsa order. Yet, perfectly balancing strictness with profound compassion, he assured his followers that whatever devotional service they performed is eternal. If a disciple should fall, they must not become discouraged or leave; rather, they should repent, tolerate the difficulty, and immediately resume their Kṛṣṇa conscious practices.
- The Ever-Present Danger of Māyā: The material energy is incredibly powerful, and because the living entity is in a marginal position, the threat of falling victim to illusion remains constant at every moment.
- The Power of Strict Regulative Principles: Adhering to the foundational rules—especially rising early and following the four prohibitions—acts as an impenetrable armor against the onslaughts of material nature.
- The Protective Shield of Constant Chanting: The holy name is the ultimate strength of a devotee; regularly chanting the mahā-mantra ensures that one remains connected to Kṛṣṇa and protected from material entanglement.
- The Necessity of Devotee Association: Solitude breeds mental concoction and illicit desires; therefore, remaining safely within the assembly of devotees and tolerating any interpersonal difficulties is crucial for survival.
- The Trap of Sense Gratification and Illicit Sex: The most prominent cause of spiritual falldown is the failure to control the tongue and the genitals, which quickly drags a practitioner back into the darkest regions of material life.
- Compassion and Recovery After a Falldown: Spiritual assets are never lost; if a devotee makes a mistake, they should feel sincere regret but must never consider it a permanent disqualification from serving the Supreme Lord.
- Explore the synthesized essence of this category in this Vanipedia article: Prabhupāda Teaches His Disciples How to Prevent Falldowns.
Subcategories
This category has the following 2 subcategories, out of 2 total.
Pages in category "Our Falldowns (Disciples of SP)"
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- A few cases have happened also that joined, being nice, but all of a sudden drifted from our Society. So Narada Muni advised that even some, sometimes somebody may not continue, but falls down, there is no loss
- A man comes and joins this Krsna consciousness movement, and in the middle he falls down, he does not make further progress because he falls down. But whatever he has done, that is permanent credit
- According to his (Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati's) calculation, practically every one of us is fallen, but because we are trying to serve the Supreme Lord with all seriousness and without duplicity, we can expect the mercy of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
- All the devotees connected with the Krsna consciousness movement must read all the books that have been translated (the CC, SB, BG and others); otherwise, after some time, they will simply eat, sleep and fall down from their position
- Any one who does not accept these things staunchly will have to fall down
- As a sudra, he can get the perfection. Why he should artificially become a brahmana and sannyasi and fall down? This has to be checked
- As soon as we are in touch with Krsna, in Krsna consciousness, the result will be that we shall lose our material attraction. Those who are falling down from Krsna consciousness again to the material attraction, that means they are not serious
- As soon as we become envious of the acarya, there is falldown, immediately. Yasyaprasadan na gatih kuto 'pi. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah. This is the teaching of Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura. He's also acarya. Acarya-parampara
- As soon as you mix with these so-called babajis, bhajananandis and with three dozen women, you are fallen. Immediately
- At any moment we can fall down. Therefore we have to keep ourselves very much vigilant, strong, strong. Strength, the spiritual strength is the chanting Hare Krsna mantra and following the rules and regulations
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- Better we should try to stay in this determination than to accept the sannyasa order by changing the dress and then again we fall down. That is not very good. There are instances like that, but it is not at all good. We should not trust the mind
- By one's mental concoctions, one falls down. By associating with nondevotees, one breaks the regulative principles and is thereby lost
- By sentiment if one accepts Krsna consciousness, and because he did not accept Krsna consciousness very diligently, or he was not very strong, later on he may fall down - still he is gainer
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- Do not fall victim to this sentimental idea of peaceful life in seclusion. That is not our dharma
- Do not let yourself fall out of this association. Even if it is very difficult and there may be many problems or disagreements still simply by remaining in the association of devotees and follow our regulative principles, chanting 16 rounds, rising early
- Do not worry about past mistakes and falldowns. Krsna has given you a new chance in taking care of one of His ISKCON temples, so the future is very bright
- Don't slip down. That is my request. Whatever I could do, I have done. Now it is up to you to spread this movement all over the world. Don't go away
- Don't transgress this etiquette. That will be falldown
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- Eating should be minimized. Too much eating leads to too much sleeping, and then sex desire. So, management should be done very carefully to see that there is not easy-going, lazy attitude which will only end in fall down
- Even there is a promise that "We shall not fall down again," that is also not believable. What is the use? Better go and speak philosophy in your grhastha dress, not this dress, but you have nice coat, pants, gentleman
- Every one of us, we are trying to be successful in Krsna consciousness. Suppose that due to some reason we fall down. There is possibility because maya, illusory nature, is very, very strong. So we may become victim
- Everyone should join the mangal arati. Gradually, we should become more regulated and strict for following the rules and regulations. Otherwise we shall fall down
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- Factually, there are numerous instances when our sannyasis and brahmanas have fallen down often due to insufficient understanding of the philosophy
- Follow all the rules prescribed by the acaryas and the spiritual master. If we deviate from this process, we may fall down, even though we may be very highly advanced
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- I am always praying to Krsna that my disciples will not fall away from the path of Krsna Consciousness
- I am very glad to learn that the regulative principles are being strictly followed, otherwise we shall fall down, victim of Maya
- I am very much obliged to him for the service as I am to my other disciples & I am very sorry that Maya has taken advantage of his disobedience & he has fallen to Maya's illusion
- I count you and your godbrothers among those few men who are treading seriously on the path back to Home, back to Godhead, and now we must maintain such exalted position and not fall back by neglecting our highest standards of devotional practices
- I did not ask my students to marry to become a lost child. I wanted to give them some facility, because you cannot do without wife. But now I am seeing that some of them are slipping away
- I know that all big leaders are falling victim to sex-life. So let her live in New York and you live in Paris with your wife, what can be done?
- I know that you cannot stop kirtana or chanting but it must be done regularly because that is our strength. We are always in the whirlpool of maya, and only this chanting of Mantra can save us from all pitfalls
- If a man comes, follows the regulative principle even for some time and again he falls down, so so long he has followed, that asset is permanent. Anything, spiritual asset, that is never lost
- If he could not execute properly, he could not chant sixteen rounds, he could not observe the rules and regulations or for sometimes he could execute and then again, he became slackened. Just like sometimes we see some of our student falls down
- If he repents, "I promised it before my spiritual master, before God, before fire. Now I'm doing this?" that repentance will help him. And if he thinks that "I'm doing it. My spiritual master is not here, let me fall to it," then he is finished
- If Kirtanananda has ever sincerely served Krishna, & his spiritual master, he will not fall down. The temporary systems will fall down without delay. We should all pray to Krishna for his steady recovery
- If one is always careful about falling down and prays to Krishna that he may not fall down on account of greater strength of Maya, then Krishna will give him special protection
- If our preaching work is neglected, or if we fall down in following the regulative principles such as rising before four, chanting 16 rounds, like that, if these things are not strictly observed then maya will enter and spoil everything
- If there are one or two instances of falling down, that may be excused, we are not so overly critical, otherwise who would be qualified of any of us to become devotee?
- If there are so many foreign brahmanas in India and I am making brahmana in the Western countries, if they are still fallen, then what is this attempt? My attempt is futile. So kindly be responsible, those who are second initiated
- If we are not very strict in chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, we may at any time fall victim to women
- If we give up our own spiritual activities and simply become concerned with the bodily comforts of others, we will fall into a dangerous position
- If you catch up Krsna's lotus feet very tightly, then you will not fall down
- If you chant always Hare Krishna, read my books, and preach this philosophy sincerely, then Krishna will provide you with all facility, and you will not fall down into material entanglement
- If you don't improve yourself in Krsna consciousness, then you again become stool worms
- If you fall from the instruction, how you can remain eternal? You have to stay on the platform. Then eternally you are safe. If you fall down from the platform, then it is your fault
- In our Krsna conscious society, if there is no mutual cooperation, then it will fall down immediately
- In the beginning there may be childlike falldown, but if you stick to the position, then one day you'll be able to walk freely, without any hamper
- In the Krsna consciousness movement these monkey disciples, being unable to follow the strict regulative principles, sometimes fall down and try to form societies based on sex
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- Judgment is for the criminals, the rascals who are not Krsna conscious. But if you become Krsna conscious, even if you cannot finish the job in this life, even if you fall, still, you will be given another chance of human body, to begin where you ended
- Just like I am traveling all over the world twice, thrice, in a year. My duty is to see that my disciples who have accepted me guru, they may not fall down. That is my anxiety
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- Keep it in mind that unless there are four, five devotees experienced, we should not open a center. Because alone he becomes polluted. Without any association, he thinks otherwise and becomes fallen down
- Kindly be responsible, those who are second initiated. If you fall down, then the whole movement becomes false. That is happening. So rectify if that is happening, that guna-karma. You must acquire the qualities & must act accordingly. That is practical
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- Marriage means that one's service becomes doubled, but at the same time we have to be very careful not to fall into sense gratification
- Maya is very strong, and we are liable to fall down at any moment. We have to gather our strength by chanting the beads sixteen rounds regularly and praying to the lotus feet of Krsna for guidance
- Maya is very strong, there is a chance of our falling down at any moment, but if we are able to catch hold of Krishna's lotus feet by chanting the Hare Krishna mantra, then Krishna gives us all protection from the onslaught attack by Maya
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- One has taken to this Krsna consciousness cult and is chanting as far as possible, but there is possibility, because one is not mature, there are so many attraction of maya, he may fall down
- Our sinful activities are so strong that even coming to the point of Krsna consciousness we are falling down, again falling down. So be careful, be cautious, and execute your duty as Krsna conscious people. You will be happy
- Our standard of purity must be kept, otherwise there will be loss of spiritual strength, and subsequent fall down
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- Regarding Damodara's plight, we are very sorry but we must always expect that some of the weak soldiers may fall down in a fight waged against the great Maya external energy of Krishna
- Regarding your question of an initiated person falling prey to the maya, the answer is that so long we are in this material world, there is always chance of being spoiled by Maya, so we must stick with vow to the Lotus Feet of Krishna
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- So much training we are giving; still, there is falldown
- So practice. So here this Krsna consciousness movement is bringing them to the practice. Therefore you find, so nice, boys and girls, they're practiced. As soon as they're neglectful to the practice - falls down
- So-called brahmacari, so-called grhastha, or so-called sannyasi, then you will fall down
- Someone of the GBC will come there and Brahmananda will be transferred to somewhere else. Perhaps he can go to Europe. If Brahmananda also falls then of course there will be trouble there. What can be done?
- Sometimes in spite of our full Krishna Consciousness we fall a victim to maya but that is temporary
- Sometimes our devotees fall down because he has not come to that platform, ever-existing. Therefore the fire extinguished. That is possible, but everyone should be very, very careful that the fire may not be extinguished. Then again maya
- Such an advanced devotee (he who propagates the KCM) will never fall down, for Krsna will give him special protection. That is the sum and substance of the Krsna consciousness movement
- Suppose we fall down. There is nothing inauspicity because whatever you have done sincerely, that is recorded in the book. In the Krsna's book. Krsna has got accountant. He keeps nice account of the activities of His devotees. That's a fact
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- Thank you very much for participating in this sankirtana movement. I am glad to hear that you are enthusiastic about chanting. Keep chanting 24 hours if possible. This constant chanting of Krishna's names will assure you of not falling down
- The Deity worship program is meant for us to keep us safe. If we neglect Deity worship, we shall also fall
- The difficulty is that our GBC men are falling victim to maya. Today I trust this GBC and tomorrow he will fall down
- The maya is so strong that as soon as I am sitting in a solitary place, then I'll think of money and women. Therefore we should live always in assembly and chant Hare Krsna and save ourself from the danger of material falldown
- The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness. So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is not fallen down. As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down. It does not matter where a living entity stays
- The other six principles you will fall down
- The proportion in which we fall back in Krishna Consciousness is filled up by the influence of maya. It is exactly like the proportion of negligence of our health is subsequently resulted in our falling ill
- The solution is to be always thinking of Krishna and the Spiritual Master, then maya cannot touch you. If you very strictly follow the regulative principles and chant 16 rounds minimum, there is no question of ever falling down
- The students must all attend morning and evening arati and classes. If we follow this simple program along with regular sankirtana, distributing the books and preaching, then there will be no fall down
- There is a standard of behavior for devotees living in the Temple and everyone who lives in the Temple must follow that standard, or else we will automatically fall down
- There is no question of falldown if one seriously follows these principles
- This hypocrisy should be stopped. There have been so many fallen down. First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience
- This is not at all good if our big devotees fall down so easily and go away. Try to save them
- This sex, this illicit sex, how is killing him. Illicit sex is so dangerous. He's a good boy. Similarly, Gaurasundara is killed by this illicit sex. Everyone will be killed with the illicit sex. That is the difficulty - falldown. What can I do?
- This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyasis. And those sannyasis who have fallen, you get them married, live like a... No more this showbottle, cheating. It is very ludicrous
- Today some of you are going to be initiated. This is the beginning of your spiritual life. But if you don't take care for further development, then that is up to you. You may fall down. Because maya is very strong
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- Unfortunately, if our student falls a victim of vagina instead of Krsna, that is very regrettable. Then better he worship, instead of Krsna, let him worship Indra. That is the Bhagavata direction
- Unless everyone of us sticks to the regulative principles of chanting, there is no other alternative than fall-down. That is a fact. I repeatedly say this, so if people do not follow, what can I do?
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- We are in maya's kingdom, so maya is strong very here, but if we catch Krsna very strongly, maya cannot do anything. Yes. That we should be fixed up in catching Krsna very tightly. Then there is no falldown
- We are pushing on this Krsna consciousness movement, and some of the students are falling back. That is not the defect of the institution. That is some other power
- We can understand how we have to be very cautious in executing our spiritual duties by observing the rules and regulations and regularly chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra. If we neglect doing this, we will eventually fall down
- We had fallen into abominable lives as meat-eaters, drunkards and woman hunters who performed all kinds of sinful activities, but now we have been given the opportunity to chant the Hare Krsna mantra
- We have got varieties of service, and we have got such program. So if, some way or other, if we remain engaged always in devotional service, then there is no question of downfall or going to the hellish condition of life
- We have to keep Krsna always in the center, and then although there are disturbances and sometimes fall downs we will be able to work together and keep our society intact
- We haven't got to manufacture. And as soon as you manufacture, fall down. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayah... This manufacturing idea is very, very dangerous in spiritual life. Whatever little success is there for me, I did not manufacture any idea
- We insist our students that "Don't go out." Even you are discomfortable, you should tolerate, but you should not go out of the society. Then you will surely fall down, surely fall down
- We see big, big workers, sannyasis. Madhudvisa fell victim. The example is given, fire and butter. You cannot say the butter will not melt even in fire. Woman is like fire, and man is like butter
- We shall not allow us to fall down, but even if we fall down, there is no loss. But that does not mean I shall be slack and allow me to fall down. Yes. We must be very serious. That should be our motto
- We shall try to save Bali Mardan from this fall down. He is a good boy, but he has been mislead
- We should be conscious of our fallen condition and pray to the Lord in that way, that "My dear Lord, somehow or other I am fallen. Now kindly pick me up."
- We should be very serious. We should not fall down from the standard of Vedic culture
- We should not be sentimentally very much anxious - "Please give me sannyasa, give me sannyasa" - and then fall down and go to hell. That is not good. That is not good. If one is able to strictly follow the sannyasa rules and regulation, he should take
- We should not utilize this Hare Krsna movement for any material purpose. Then it will fall down. Either the man will fall down or the status will fall down. As it has become in India
- What devotion we can offer to Krsna? He's unlimited. He's kindly accepting our little service. That's all. Don't be proud of becoming a great devotee. That is the cause of falldown
- Whatever falldown has been, you should be regretful about it, but it is not so serious nor is it a permanent disqualification
- When one is, I mean to say, raised to the platform of spontaneous love, there is no question of falling back
- When you are initiated, you promise "No illicit sex, no intoxication, no meat-eating, no gambling." And if you do privately all these things, then what kind of man you are? Don't be cheater. Be plain
- While you are discharging your devotional service even being immature you fall down, it doesn't matter even if you fall down
- Why falling down? Because he was not fit for the position, therefore he has fallen. Better remain in his position and become perfect. Why artificially bring them? There is no need
- With great difficulty we get a man. We have to reform them. Our business is to become sympathetic to fallen souls. So in future do not do it all. Everything should be done amicably
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- Yes, that possibility is always there. But my proposal is that if you are not true Christian, then your preaching will not be effective. I don't say that now we are strictly following and we will not fall down in future. I don't say that
- You are already known as the bright-faced. Is it not? Before coming to Krsna consciousness see the photograph of your face, and now see. Practical. But if you deviate, if you fall down again, that is your business
- You cannot trace out the history when you have fallen down. That is impossible. But our position is marginal. At any moment, we can fall down. That tendency is there
- You have described how you once fell down because you saw discrepancies in our philosophy. Actually, our philosophy is perfect, but because there were discrepancies in your mind at that time you may have thought something wrongly about our philosophy
- You have to follow the instruction of Krsna or His representative, but you cannot imitate them. Then you'll fall down
- You should follow the four regulative principles without deviation. If you do these simple things, you will make steady advancement in Krishna Consciousness and there will be no fall downs