Expressions researched:
"tomorrow"
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Prabhupāda: In Calcutta there are many.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I found out that in Allahabad there are a lot for Hindi. But then we had to have somebody over there.
Prabhupāda: Allahabad.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, one devotee or someone who will supervise that. I suspect Bombay will be much more expensive, but I want to check. Tomorrow I'll check it.
Prabhupāda: Allahabad, we are going.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Pālikā: No. Because I have to grind... It has to soak, then I have to grind it. Then it has to sit for six or eight hours. I can prepare it now for tomorrow night.
Prabhupāda: All right, for tomorrow night.
Prabhupāda: Then where is your ism? Whole ism changed. That they do not understand. They're so much in darkness, mūḍha. "Today I am very great national leader, my country, my..." So on, so on. And tomorrow by the laws of nature if I become a dog in Europe, then where is my nationalism? And it is possible. What is called? Because you are under nature's law, you are not independent. Therefore they have given up this idea that there is life after death. This is their first ignorance.
Trivikrama: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (Hindi)
Guest (5) (Indian man): I am going tomorrow to Kumbha. Tomorrow night.
Prabhupāda: Oh, by plane. Oh.
Guest (5): Train. Howrah Mail, Howrah Express, getting down at Prayāga. And I'll be there to 14th and 15th.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So you can go to our camp.
Prabhupāda: Not only bitter. I got some trouble in the teeth. Pap(?) means suspended.
Guest (5): Pills are taken or not taken?
Prabhupāda: Pills? No. If required I shall take again.
Guest (5): If possible, I'll come tomorrow. Otherwise I'll see you when we come back or I'll see you there.
Prabhupāda: All right. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Trivikrama: Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Vivekananda said, "What is the use of pouring water in tulasī? Better pour water in a eggplant saka. You'll get some eggplant." This is.... Vivekananda said. Eggplant is also a small tree, and tulasī... So if somebody is pouring water on a tulasī leaf for bhakti, he condemns him, "Why you are wasting time? Pour water on this eggplant. Tomorrow you'll get two." (laughs) This is karmī. "God is fictitious. God's service is another sentiment. Do something practical."
Guest (1) (Indian man): As you have said, it comes and goes attached to the body.
Prabhupāda: Today or tomorrow. Best thing is so long we have got this opportunity of human form of life, let us cultivate Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is...
Guest (1): I came other day also and you were advised by the doctors not to see you.
Prabhupāda: No-doctor says like that. I see everyone.
Prabhupāda: Fresh leaf, how can I chew it?
Hari-śauri: Too bitter. Hm. I'll get some dried. I can dry some on the roof tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Not dry. You have to take fresh leaf. But you have to make...
Prabhupāda: Yes. She was doing nice.
Hari-śauri: You would like those for breakfast?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is good for the... So if Arundhati makes, she can come and tomorrow make one or two baras in the morning.
Hari-śauri: For your breakfast.
Prabhupāda: So you are keeping your health all right?
Girirāja: Yes.
Prabhupāda: All right.
Hari-śauri: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: No, you stay here.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Plus there's lot of income tax. The income tax is so bad, the government laws, that ISKCON cannot even sell books. Even if we sell books we are considered to be a profit-making organization. We can give books away for a donation but not sell it. They are such... Tomorrow our auditor is coming on site. He's coming with two, one income tax lawyer, who is our new lawyer now. Very nice man.
Prabhupāda: So you want to keep there?
Prabhupāda: "I given up sat-saṅga, and I am trying to enjoy asat." Asato mā sad gamaya. That is Vedic injunction. "But I do not care for sat-saṅga." Sat-saṅga chāḍi. You have to take up something after giving up something. So our present position is sat-saṅga chāḍi kāinu asate vilāsa. "I have given up sat-saṅga, and I am trying to enjoy in asat. The result is I am entangled in karma bandha phāṅsa. According to karma, I am changing my body, and today I am human being and tomorrow I am a dog. And again from dog to another body, another body." This is going on.
Girirāja: Mahāṁsa.
Prabhupāda: Her (His) said, mother in the beginning she opposed. Yes, she is happy now.
Guest (10): She wants to meet you, Prabhupāda. Can I bring her tomorrow?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Guest (2): You are going to Kumbha Mela tomorrow?
Prabhupāda: Day after. So our movement is genuine. Now it is up to you to help this movement. And there is no concoction. From... Sa evāyaṁ mayā te 'dya yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ (BG 4.3). As Kṛṣṇa said five thousand years ago, yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ, so we are also presenting that purātanaḥ. This philosophy is not new. Purātanaḥ. So we have nothing to tax our brain to manufacture something new. So people give me credit: "Swamiji, you have done wonderful, wonderful." I do not know magic. But I am presenting purātanaḥ, that's all, no adulteration. If there is any credit, the credit is this-yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ.
Prabhupāda: ...at a time. Simply the sense must be there. Jñānavan. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyante (BG 7.19). To surrender to Kṛṣṇa is not easy, but if one is jñānavān, he can do it. So make your country jñānavān, not these rascals, unnecessarily wasting time by opposing us. They are rascals. So you have to turn these rascals into sense. Then it will take. Give them prasādam. Let them chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Time will come, ours. Do it. I'll die, but you shall remain. You are all young men. (break)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: After meeting with Mr. Narayana tomorrow I feel that I... What we first asked him for was some free advertisement, free advertising space that sometimes he gets. He says we'll have to write to Madras to the head office.
Prabhupāda: That he'll do... If we get free, you send.
Prabhupāda: So...
Gargamuni: So I have to leave here tomorrow morning at 8:30 and meet with the man at around 9:30, 10:00, and he'll give me all the names and addresses, and he'll show me some other plots. Then, perhaps, if maybe you would like to see it the following day, we can drive there and show you the plot as soon as I get more information.
Rāmeśvara: Would you like to do that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Guest (1) (Indian man): She wants to know... You can ask her direct. She wants to know that when she can take the dīkṣā. She is prepared to be abided by the rules.
Prabhupāda: Oh, then it is very nice. You can take tomorrow. Quite.(?)
Guest (1): Tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Guest (1): What time?
Prabhupāda: You come here early in the morning. You take prasādam here, and you'll be initiated. Where is your father's house?
Guest (1): But, sir, now these things are so complicated only the title indicates the caste.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Nowadays it is topsy-turvied. There is no system, Kali-yuga.
Guest (2): Today somebody is a brāhmaṇa, tomorrow's he's kṣatriya, and day after tomorrow he's something else.
Prabhupāda: Udaraṁ bharatā. Dakṣyaṁ udaraṁ bhāratā. Bas, Kali-yuga. Somehow or other, if you can fill up your bellies, then you are very expert. That is going on. If you can maintain your family nicely, then you are dakṣya. Dakṣyaṁ udaraṁ bhāratā. These symptoms are there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Because the Kali-yuga, it is so condemned that it will be difficult to maintain one's body and soul together, that udaraṁ bharita is very expert. He's maintaining.
Prabhupāda: It is crowded?
Gargamuni: No.
Bhāgavata: Abhirāma is going tomorrow to Calcutta. On the way he will stop at Remuṇā.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Bhāgavata: He will inform them that you will come on which day. On the day, third or fourth of February, after this function is over, he will inform them that you are coming. Then night of the function I will go ahead and see that everything is...
Prabhupāda: That you arrange with the secretary. So Brahmānanda's going to America. For the time being he should go.
Guest (9) (Indian man): I was told by the...
Prabhupāda: Hm? Who?
Guest (10) (Indian man): No, this is program.
Guest (9): He wanted to just tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: So...
Satsvarūpa: There is invitation?
Prabhupāda: There is road?
Guest (9): Yes.
Prabhupāda: So we can go.
Satsvarūpa: You're already going tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Where?
Satsvarūpa: That man who came, who you were supposed to go on the 26th, and he was changed.
Prabhupāda: Oh. The same program?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: We had a meeting before I came here...
Prabhupāda: Ah, ah.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: ...in Washington with Rūpānuga Prabhu and the other scientists in our group for the Institute. So I have some papers to be signed by Your Divine Grace. So you'll read in the morning? Tomorrow?
Prabhupāda: Yes. We have started one institute, Bhaktivedanta Institute?
Prabhupāda: So arrange for this.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: As many devotees...
Gargamuni: From Calcutta to Imphal by road we can go.
Prabhupāda: So he'll take the party. So manage tomorrow.
Gargamuni: And we can carry all the books and everything by road.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Do that.
Prabhupāda: What is nonsense success? We don't take that success!
Yogeśvara: Well, we have polio vaccine, we have aspirin.
Prabhupāda: I am so successful that I am going to die tomorrow. I am so successful.
Hari-śauri: Aspirin won't save you from death.
Prabhupāda: Mother asked... Mother Durgā asked the devotee... Because Durgā comes every year. Asked the devotee, "My dear son, you are happy?" "Yes, mother, very happy." "So there is no complaint?" "Only two complaint." "What is that?" "There is no food and there is no cloth. Otherwise we are very happy." (laughter) Two difficulties: no food, no cloth. That's all. These rascals are like that. Everything advanced, but when the question of death, "Oh, that..." Einstein also died.
Jayapatākā: This municipal executive we didn't meet. He's just appointed by the government. He might have just suggested something like "Let's see if they'll do the work without us being very firmly obligated," Just testing us. Exactly what... But we can't do anything like that. But maybe that Gargamuni didn't understand their English very well, or they didn't...
Prabhupāda: So tomorrow you'll go to see whom?
Jayapatākā: I was thinking to go Monday because tomorrow is Sunday.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Jayapatākā: So many times they've come. I don't see that suddenly their story should change so drastically.
Prabhupāda: They came before also?
Prabhupāda: So regarding the temple, we shall wait for the land acquisition decision or we shall begin without it? You have seen how the road is going to the site of temple?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We were planning... Brahmānanda and I just made plans for tomorrow morning to see certain lands that have newly been purchased, and we wanted to see everything tomorrow morning.
Prabhupāda: So I shall also go.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That will be very nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It must be completed by then, if not before.
Prabhupāda: So now you make arrangement. The prasāda arrangement is very good. Yes, they are following. Give me one plate tomorrow.
Bhavānanda: What time?
Prabhupāda: What time you are ready?
Bhavānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Then Bhagavad-gītā, that's all. People like ācāra, behavior. That is main thing. And nobody wants to check you, whether you know Bengali or Hindi. They see the person, that "Here is a Vaiṣṇava." Oh, then it is all right.
Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, tomorrow's program...
Prabhupāda: Hm. So Acyutānanda has come. You all sannyāsīs may, one or two, remain here. And kīrtana party-Acyutānanda, he has got minibus.
Prabhupāda: So I think that we can go day after tomorrow.
Bhavānanda: That's all right.
Prabhupāda: What is that? (breaks)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...kidnapped three of our devotees about a week before we... Just about a week...
Prabhupāda: So we cannot take any position?
Prabhupāda: Same position.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is the traditional system. After you win the case, then you turn around and sue them. We may not get, because we're suing the city. Anyway, then we can get more opportunity for furthering our propaganda if we file another suit. Tomorrow will you go on a walk, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: I can go.
Bhavānanda: Yes, I was going to fill the bus and Your Divine Grace's car and one, Abhirāma's car. Jayapatākā Mahārāja is in Calcutta, and he's returning tomorrow morning, so he thought that he would stop in Chakdaha.
Prabhupāda: That's all right.
Prabhupāda: This is verse of Bhagavad-gītā, prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ (BG 3.27). You cannot violate the laws of nature. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā (BG 7.14). You are strictly under the obligation, or laws of nature. Why you are talking nonsense? This should be... And under the strict laws of nature—you are eternal—simply you are suffering while transforming this body or transmigrating your soul over... And it is so risky that today you are human being; tomorrow you may be a dog, a tree. Then your life is spoiled. Today you have got so nice intelligence to deliver you from the clutches of the laws of nature, and tomorrow you may not be able. Then you are lost in the laws of nature. This is your position. So at least this institution must be there. People may take little advantage of it. If he begins, that is also great guarantee that he gets another chance, another chance. Svalpam apy asya dharmasya trāyate mahato bhayāt. Yoga-bhraṣṭo 'bhijāyate. Why this chance should not be given to the human society? What is this nonsense dog dancing, election, and bribing, stealing, and unnecessarily struggle? What they'll do? They are all nothing, all of these. What will be gained by this?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Very honest and sincere people normally appreciate our movement. Only those who are envious...
Prabhupāda: Envious we don't care for. We don't mind. Never care for them. I didn't care anyone, any times, even my Godbrothers. Neither I care just now. I'll go on with my... Why? We are doing our duty. That's all. Under higher authoritative order. Have no fear. It is not personal gratification. So arrange for Manipur. We shall go. Let us go.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So I'll go to Delhi tomorrow and...
Prabhupāda: Go.
Prabhupāda: And you did not send to the reporters and the...? No.
Hari-śauri: Did you give these figures to the reporters at the airport?
Rāmeśvara: Well, we want to have a press conference tomorrow.
Gargamuni: We're going to have... At the Calcutta Book Fair we finished decorating our pandal. It promises to be very successful. We're just opposite the Americans, who have spent fifty thousand rupees, the American Embassy. And next door to us is the German Embassy, and on the other side is the British Embassy. So we're in a very good spot, and we'll have all our books. We'll have the displays as well as the movie, the BBT movie, and we have our men there, who will take orders and sell books. It starts tomorrow afternoon. And we'll have a press conference also and release these figures.
Prabhupāda: "Send back" means where?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, that means that today, tomorrow and the next day, the GBC will meet. Then the following morning, the morning of the fourth, the presidents will meet and they will give any changes to the GBC, and on the afternoon of the fourth the GBC will consider all changes.
Prabhupāda: Decide. Decide.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Little?
Prabhupāda: Paramānna, sweet rice.
Pañcadraviḍa: So for this, tomorrow we are...
Prabhupāda: Then people will be very much satisfied.
Satsvarūpa: Another resolution: A subcommittee be formed of the three GBCs for India as an ISKCON Food Relief Committee. They will make a proposal on how a food program will be conducted.
Prabhupāda: How many resolutions are there still?
Satsvarūpa: Let's see. There's about six or seven more.
Prabhupāda: So we shall see tomorrow.
Hṛdayānanda: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. (break) Find out.
Prabhupāda: Jaya.
Pañcadraviḍa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? I talked to... What's his name? Pañca-ratna. And he told me that they ordered everything to prepare khicuṛi, vegetable, sweet rice and tomato chutney for tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Prabhupāda: If more men come, then I shall describe all this anthill civilization. "Health." Nonsense, what "health"? He'll be kicked out immediately.
Guest (2) (Indian man): Even healthy development.
Prabhupāda: No, who is healthy if he's going to die? "I am so healthy that I am going to die tomorrow." This is their health.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Illusion. They don't know. Every one of those questions was about the body.
Prabhupāda: Not this section, this nation, this religion, no, not like that. They are going to die, and they're organizing "health." Just see their intelligence. Butchers' health organization. Butcher is going to kill the animal tomorrow, and today he's seeing that health is..., healthy is animal. "Animal is...?" This is... So there is a health organization, WHO? World Health Organization?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Girirāja: Actually she is... Now the mayor, the mayor is scheduled for tomorrow, but he had agreed without checking his diary, and he has to come earlier, so what my idea is that he wants to come at five o'clock.
Prabhupāda: So where he will be best.
Prabhupāda: When you'll call Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?
Girirāja: Some of the newly elected members from the Janta party are coming back to Bombay today and tomorrow. So we will try to invite one of them.
Prabhupāda: You say we have to go back to Juhu on... They say. (break) This is the center of mass movement.
Prabhupāda: So they have got farther two days, so I think they will be able to do it. That, my, apartment in Juhu.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, there is no question. Actually, they were ready tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Still to...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Finished completely. We'll be going there tomorrow morning to see how much they've done today.
Prabhupāda: Some first-class ḍāb should always be in stock in the refrigerator.
Hari-śauri: Yeah. Main work now is cleaning and the kitchen.
Prabhupāda: The doors have been...?
Hari-śauri: The door frames are there. They are just..., it will take tomorrow to fit, and then they'll be ready. Gargamuni's men have arrived last night, too.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Hari-śauri: First I'll go to Sydney, because this purchasing of the building has to be done in a few weeks, and we have to thoroughly check all the finance. And after that I'll go to Melbourne, because then the court case comes up at the end of April.
Prabhupāda: From Delhi?
Hari-śauri: That I still have to decide. I'm going to ring tomorrow morning and see what the situation is at the consulate.
Prabhupāda: From Delhi you can go to Singapore. From Singapore to Sydney.
Hari-śauri: Yeah. There are direct flights also, that they come, Delhi, Bombay and then straight to Perth and then Sydney.
Prabhupāda: I left from Delhi to Bombay.
Prabhupāda: But if required, I can go. If it is required, I can go.
Girirāja: Well, I don't think it is actually required, because we have a very nice program.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What about tomorrow?
Girirāja: Oh, tomorrow is a very big day. Rāma-navamī. The Chief Minister is coming.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Initiation.
Girirāja: I was saying that since today is Monday, yesterday was Sunday, so must people probably thought that "I'll go Sunday or else I'll go on Rāma-navamī. " So today I think fewer people will come.
Prabhupāda: Tomorrow speak.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's what you were thinking originally, that you would be going only on certain days to the pandal, important days. Do you want to ask Prabhupāda about the press conference?
Girirāja: I told him that you had agreed to wait to meet him. He said "This is wonderful. I have been pining for his darśana."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This guy?
Girirāja: He said, "Now we must have rāma-rājya." He said, "That is why I must meet your Guru Mahārāja before I go back to Delhi tomorrow."
Prabhupāda: Yes. I can give him...
Prabhupāda: At least for one month.
Mr. Rajda: To one month. I am returning on seventh again here. Then I shall come here. Tomorrow I am going for Delhi, but on seventh I am returning. Seventh I will come here again.
Prabhupāda: So you come and let us (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: No, I am..., my life is dedicated for this purpose. I am... It is convenient for me at any time. Otherwise, I am not keeping good health at the moment. Still, I have come. I am just trying even up to the last moment of my life, if I can deliver some good to these people. That is my determination. What is this life? Life will end today or tomorrow or day after. But if you live just to the point, that is the idea. Otherwise trees are also living thousands of years. What is the benefit?
Prabhupāda: Wherever there is Kṛṣṇa, that is saved. So when you are returning?
Guru dāsa: I will be leaving here tomorrow. Then I am going to Delhi to get visa from India side to Poland, because it is better. And then I'll go. So... (offers obeisances to Śrīla Prabhupāda) Thank you very much.
Prabhupāda: Immediately one copy send to Mr. Rajda.
Girirāja: Now Mr. Rajda is coming tomorrow for one day.
Prabhupāda: So let him meet me, appoint him, give him some time. Invite him for prasādam. With his associates.
Prabhupāda: So daytime he can take...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Lunch prasādam.
Girirāja: Well, see he's coming because he is a leader in the municipal corporation, and tomorrow they are electing the new mayor. So I was thinking that probably on the way to the airport in the evening we could invite him to stop here.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Girirāja: Otherwise, he is coming back on the 8th to spend about a week here.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Gargamuni: I just returned from Calcutta, and they are expecting you to arrive tomorrow morning by plane.
Prabhupāda: Where?
Gargamuni: In Calcutta.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Prabhupāda: Whole Vṛndāvana is compact of sahajiyās. They'll... Our temple is there now. Here, this certification may be printed in a block letter, and you can, kept in our entrance of Vṛndāvana temple. People will read it. Is it not good?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Gargamuni: Can I get a block tomorrow and hang it up?
Girirāja: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Similarly, the judgment of high-court, that should be also printed.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. It's ready.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He is supposed to be bringing it to me tomorrow morning.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. It is being typed. It is all ready. I am showing you a complete statement of all the paper purchased, how it is used, a complete statement of every book printed in India, where it is distributed, what the balance is; complete inventory report, how much stock we have in hand, and books distributed in the month of March. We are producing these reports every month now. Everything. All the records are there.
Prabhupāda: No, but that bank manager wanted to come?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He came, but I only got back by four-thirty, and he said he would come again at eleven o'clock tomorrow morning.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's all right.
Guest (1): He is of your own age. So if you tell me then I can bring him tomorrow, because I am going out on seventh.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Give them fruit.
Prem Yogi: Can I come in the afternoon about 4:30? Tomorrow, 4:30?
Prabhupāda: Did he say (Hindi)?
Prem Yogi: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: It is a dangerous civilization. You... You should... (pause) Dangerous civilization that labdhvā su-durlabham idaṁ bahu-sambhavānte. After many, many millions of years one gets the chance of becoming a human being, especially civilized and especially in India. They will bring the same. And Kṛṣṇa personally says that if this chance is missed and a person does not become God realized, then he again returns back to the..., to the... Today I am a prime minister. Tomorrow, if I become a dog... What is this civilization? And they will have to become. Nature's law we cannot avoid. And there is no question, "Why you are touching me? I am prime minister." Who cares for you? You have to take account of your activities, karmaṇā daiva-netreṇa (SB 3.31.1).
Prabhupāda: Paropakāra. They have got this opportunity how to get out of this entanglement of being covered by the material body, and they are not being given the chance. And we are giving the chance so easy. Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanaṁ bhava-mahā-dāvāgni... (CC Antya 20.12). Bhava-mahā-dāvāgni, the same thing. Bhava-mahā-dāvāgni. This repetition of birth and death, it is the blazing fire of material existence. So when one understands that "What is my position?" then he'll do this, ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam, clear understanding, "Oh..." What is this nonsense nationality? Today I am Indian; tomorrow I am a dog. Where is my nation? Where is my family? Where is my father? Where is my mother? So to become mad after these things is my business, or to get out of this material entanglement is my business? And we have got so much facilities. Kṛṣṇa is instructing, Himself. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is teaching personally how to live. And we are not taking advantage? What a suicidal policy. And they are becoming leader, Jayapataka Narayan and this... What is that?
Prabhupāda: This is our flower? Hm? Get all round, flower, the first land vacant. You should plant them. Puṇyo gandhaḥ pṛthivyāṁ ca.
Upendra: Paramparā mālās. There's five mālās here for the paramparā.
Prabhupāda: First of all hear. Then tomorrow they... Kṛṣṇa is helping. He'll help more, more. We are not going to be misled by their leadership.
Prabhupāda: Where is that copy?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I have it here.
Girirāja: I met Mr. Rajda yesterday, and I invited him here for prasādam, so he said day after tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Day after tomorrow means?
Girirāja: Fifteenth. The 15th.
Prabhupāda: What?
Prabhupāda: Make that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What date?
Girirāja: Day after tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very good.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on. Today you are powerful. Tomorrow I am powerful. That does not make any difference. Indira Gandhi was so powerful. In one day everything finished. So it may be finished, my position. Mohitaṁ nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam (BG 7.13). Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvaiḥ. They do not know, behind these all activities there is a person who can do anything He likes. So what about to know about Him? So these things are there in India. The knowledge is not secret. It is open. So without distorting it, without breaking it and spoiling it, why not give it as it is for the benefit of the whole humanity? You are young man. You can think over.
Prabhupāda: That is being done all over the world. If you simply understand this one line, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ... (BG 2.13). So today I am Indian, and after death I become something else. There are 8,400,000 different bodies. Today I may be very exalted minister, and tomorrow, if I become something else... I'll have to, because nature's law, you cannot check. Tathā dehānt... Just like here is child. You cannot check to become young man. That is not in your power.
Prabhupāda: Then what can be done? A man has fallen in the dark well, crying. You give him one rope: "Catch it." But he'll not catch. Then how you can deliver? Let him suffer. So he had asked him to go to the municipal...?
Girirāja: Yes, 3:30 on Monday. These M.P.'s are just here for a few days, and they have very busy schedule. So I have arranged for one man to come tomorrow. He can see you... (break)
Prabhupāda: So? Now, this nationalism idea, so you have trace out the whole history. By introducing this nationalism, what improvement gave? Nationalism, the leader, it began in Europe, the Romans. They wanted to spread. Where are the Romans now? Carthagian, old history, Egyptian, Grecian, then, later on, Moguls or then British. So where are these groups? "Combined together, exploit others." That was, that means, a gang of rogues. Rogues and thieves, they... And by doing that, what they have actually done? The Romans, now their broken buildings are there. And people go to see the fun, how they used to enjoy. What is that called?
Prabhupāda: So therefore a Kṛṣṇa conscious person, they know the body is the cause of... "Because I have got this body, I am suffering. Therefore partial service to the body, what benefit?" That is... That requires very good brain. Today I have got eye trouble. Tomorrow I have got leg trouble. The other day I have got hand trouble. But the...
Prabhupāda: And what about municipality?
Girirāja: I met Mr. Rajda, and he had written a very nice letter to the Commissioner, and, the thing is, the typist made many mistakes, so in his office I personally retyped it, but by that time it was too late to meet the Commissioner, so he said to ring up today. But I also met the architect yesterday, and he says that the permission for the Gurukula is ready. It's signed and everything, and he's going to pick it up, I think, tomorrow morning. So in retyping the letter I minimized that. He said that actually those people were helping us, but they just had to, you know, dispose of Matrey's objections first. So the main things we're approaching for is this ten-foot piece of land, which is going to be a constant trouble.
Prabhupāda: They have no use to ask for this ten feet.
Prabhupāda: Nephew. Good boy.
Mr. Dwivedi: And he's his brother-in-law. I came with one request and also a suggestion, if that is appeal-able to Your Holiness. When I had been there in the night at home I has pondered a little, and I thought I am on very good terms with Mr. Jetthi, easily approachable for me. Even in spite of the ministerial crisis on the 22nd, he met me. On the 2lst evening I went to Vṛndāvana. So I saw the, our Mr. President, Akṣaya Mahārāja. He wanted me to stay. I said, "No, I am going away. I'm going with Mr. Jetthi for tomorrow." And I think if he is just a little free from government engagements, he would like to preside or inaugurate this function, and I would call it the inauguration of the Krishna Consciousness Society branch in the state of Madhya Pradesh and at this place. And therefore, as soon as I'll get permission from Your Holiness, I shall try to contact him tonight on telephone.
Prabhupāda: It is... I think it is a good proposal. If President comes, it must be very successful. It is very good chance.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, he will do the...
Mr. Dwivedi: ...the installation will...
Prabhupāda: He's young man. He can work.
Mr. Dwivedi: If tomorrow I'm meeting... Mr. Mondalia(?) is coming tomorrow, and if I can only meet him, then I'm asking him... I think he'll give us a thousand meters of electric wire, another two-three hundred bulbs. So I'll not have to spend anything. Only I have to take it and put things over there.
Prabhupāda: Mondalia knows our movement.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Which Mondalia are you meeting?
Prabhupāda: Very nice.
Mr. Dwivedi: Even here we had a dramatic performance in aid of Rural India in which one of the ministers, Mr. Yajni, provided, and Patel also was there, and Mr. D.P. Mondalia was one of the chief guests over there. And otherwise also, I get lot of help from D.P. So I expect him tomorrow, and if I meet him... Normally what happens is he sees me the next day of his coming. But I'll try to press upon him, if I meet him tomorrow, then also most of my...
Prabhupāda: (aside:) You want to talk?
Mr. Dwivedi: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Don't, you know...
Mr. Dwivedi: No, I understand.
Prabhupāda: And you, you get seat in Punjab Mail.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, tomorrow morning we're going.
Prabhupāda: Punjab Mail is best. Punjab Mail.
Indian man (1): Most suitable train.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Mr. Dwivedi: Most suitable train is Punjab Mail. You leave here about four o'clock, quarter past four, and you are at Gwalior round about two o'clock.
Prabhupāda: That's nice.
Kārttikeya: No, I'll talk to Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. When are you going?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, we're going to go tomorrow to book the tickets. We'll be going...
Kārttikeya: After 6th.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, on the... We'll be leaving on the 6th.
Prabhupāda: Wait next day.
Prabhupāda: Tentative date.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So when do you want the letter? Immediately? You want the letter immediately?
Mr. Dwivedi: Yes. Yes, you see, because I am leaving tomorrow. Before I go, I meet some press people. I will show them this letter. I say...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: I have given the idea. Now how to put it into shape, that I... That I do not know.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's a man coming that Patita Uddhāraṇa invited?
Surabhīr Abhipālayantam: Yes. Tomorrow this man from Bangalore is coming.
Prabhupāda: So where his place has been fixed up?
Prabhupāda: Risky.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Under the circumstances... Oh.
Upendra: (indistinct)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (to Upendra:) Yeah, I'll be back. Tell him it'll be ready tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: What is the...? (break) ...already a artificial kidney.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...'cause it's a holy site. These other places were not so... This Hrishikesh is holy site.
Prabhupāda: It is nearer.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So tomorrow I'm going into the city, anyway. I'll go and meet either Bhogilal or Pranlal. I have nice acquaintance with them, so I can meet them. Even if Bhogilal is not here, Pranlal is here.
Prabhupāda: One of them can...
Prabhupāda: Hm.
British devotee: So the people how have been staying here...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You can make an announcement.
British devotee: Yes. Everyone can please take leave now. Śrīla Prabhupāda now has to get ready to leave. He's going to Agra tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
British devotee: So if you can come to the door, stand at the door... That's the door, yes.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
British devotee: Bhūmipati, could you help there?
Prabhupāda: Jaya. Thank you very much.
British devotee: That man would like you to...
Prabhupāda: I'll go.
Trivikrama: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If you come tomorrow again at five o'clock, every day there'll be darśana.
Devotees: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Thank you very much for your coming. Jaya. Jaya. Five to six?
Prabhupāda: So as we are changing body in this status, from childhood to boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, similarly, when you give up this body, you get another body. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ. So if you are destined to change your body, then where is your nationalism? (Hindi) If you have to change your body... Today you are Indian. Tomorrow you become Pakistani. Then again fight.
Trivikrama: Bangladesh.
Prabhupāda: This is going on. Today you are European. Tomorrow you become Indian. And today you are man; tomorrow you become a dog. If you have got love for your country, but your work is doggish, then you become a dog. And who cares for the "national" dog? The street dog and the... At night he takes charge of the street. Nobody has appointed him, but he takes charge, and whole night: "Gow! Gow!" If somebody, new man, enters the neighborhood, "I am in charge." You see? "Why you have entered?" So this is going on. "I am leader of this country."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ten after six, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, did you want him to translate, I mean, tomorrow?
Prabhupāda: Hindi? Hindi you have made?
Indian man (1): I have read it and translated two or three pages, but I don't know whether it will get approval. That's my difficulty.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Approval... You are a lawyer. You do it. Not that every common man can understand. Still, whatever you have done, you can read something.
Prabhupāda: ...this Rādhā-Dāmodara temple.
Akṣayānanda: That would be nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Maybe tomorrow, if this Jayaśacīnandana goes the first time, I can go with him. I know Gauracānda a little bit, so I can, you know, just, as your secretary, send your greetings to him. He'll appreciate that.
Akṣayānanda: He'll appreciate.
Prabhupāda: We have become very, very weak. No appetite. The brain is not working. Brain is working, but body is not allowing... Don't worry. Everyone will die, today or tomorrow. I am also old man. There is nothing to be regrettable. So as far as possible in my body, I am complete... Now it is up to Kṛṣṇa to judge... I have no objection.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who else? Balavanta, Ādi-keśava Mahārāja. They've come. They'll be on the next shift after this. And others are coming tomorrow, the day after also.
Prabhupāda: So what is your report?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: We have finished three booklets. They'll be ready in about two months. So we're getting ready to start the program. It is going very nicely.
Prabhupāda: It is being printed in Los Angeles?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Prabhupāda: Go and see and appeal.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. I'll go tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And find out some good confidants.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I got three very big...
Prabhupāda: Death, if takes place, then where is the wrong? Where is the lamentation? There is nothing... You are not permanent. You have to die. But if you die discussing all these things, that is your glorious death. Death is sure. You cannot avoid it, today or tomorrow or hundred years after. But die a glorious death. Yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ. Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). That is wanted. It is not... So I have called you for that purpose. So if death is to take place, let me die in your association and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. There is no harm. That is glorious. Now it is very important point, Nārada's qualification.
Prabhupāda: Bhavauṣadhāc chrotra-mano-'bhirāmāt. You'll find, not find any medicine throughout the universe that you'll be benefited either you die or be... This is the only medicine. In both ways you are... The death is inevitable. You die today or tomorrow. So by taking this medicine, if you die, you have the greatest benefit. And if you live, enjoy. If you die, enjoy; if you live, enjoy. Go on chanting. (kīrtana) (break) No, I have no objection. (laughter) I am prepared in either way. What is that machine they keep? Husking machine?
Prabhupāda: Seminar.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Seminar. Conference. Yeah, we'll bridge the gap. And I think that would be quite appropriate. It will be quite appropriate, so that we can start propagating the message. Then I will... They're making a pamphlet for tomorrow. Dr. Sharma is going to print it in Delhi. So we can do some nice program in Bombay. And in a little time most of the schools in India are closed, so we can have nice conference in Vṛndāvana and have slide shows and... I'm going to see that film tomorrow. Messages that we have... And I proposed that we have nice form so that we present nice slide show and specific objects.
Prabhupāda: That will be very nice. Good idea.
Prabhupāda: It is already.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I'm going to have to look tomorrow and...
Prabhupāda: Hm. You can see, both, and select which room for which quarter. Big, big room... (Bengali)
Dr. Sharma: (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: He is very intelligent.
Prabhupāda: I have no objection. (Bengali) You are all able.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: (aside:) Yeah, tomorrow I'll go and see everything.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) So? No, I shall go. Utsāhād dhairyāt tat-tat-karma-pravartanāt, sato vṛtteḥ sādhu..., ṣaḍbhir bhaktiḥ prasidhyati.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have black cows.
Dr. Ghosh: (Bengali) (Bengali conversation)
Prabhupāda: He said there is no fear. Everything is all right.
Dr. Ghosh: Tomorrow morning...
Prabhupāda: So I'll give you seven names.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Our idea is to finish this will business as soon as possible.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I'll give you tomorrow. I'll think over this.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. Any more, Girirāja?
Girirāja: That's all for the will.
Prabhupāda: So you are listing all the men who will participate?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. I'm going to have all the... I'm leaving tomorrow in the morning, and I'm leaving for Bombay. From there I'm leaving to the States on Friday morning.
Prabhupāda: I want to give you the best place in Bombay.
Prabhupāda: The human life is meant for understanding Kṛṣṇa and stop this repetition of birth and death. That is ideal. Kṛṣṇa says plainly that "If you do not take advantage of My instruction, then mām aprāpya: you'll not get Me." "So what is the loss? I don't get You?" Now, nivartante mṛtyu-saṁsāra-vartmani. "Then you'll be again entangled in this birth and death." "What is the wrong there?" "Now, today, you are Prime Minister. Tomorrow you may be a dog. Do you like that?" But they have become so rascal that "Where is the wrong if I become a dog, that?" Here is your civilization. They say that "What is the wrong if I become a dog?" They don't mind even if they become a dog next life.
Prabhupāda: Yes, jointly. He is in charge of Punjab, and he'll be..., work in Delhi. What is that? I cannot un... So it is simply sentiment.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, it is... On his part it is a sentiment.
Prabhupāda: That's right. So induce him to go. We have to work.
Bhakti-caitanya: So we are going this evening, because I have to see Mr. Gupta tomorrow morning, to get the permission from my father...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhakti-caitanya: So think that I should...
Prabhupāda: Arrange this. If it is done complete... Otherwise, all combine together. Is that all right?
Prabhupāda: And even they are convinced of the importance of this movement...
Bhakti-caitanya: Right.
Prabhupāda: ...still, they are politicians. You do not expect wonderful thing.
Bhakti-caitanya: No, they are always sly. Today they are (indistinct). Tomorrow they will be...
Prabhupāda: Viśvāso naiva kartavyaḥ strīṣu rāja-kuleṣu: "Never trust politicians and woman." That is the instruction of Cāṇakya.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hiraṇyagarbha's going back there in a day. We have a boy going there in one day.
Śatadhanya: It is good medicinally?
Prabhupāda: For me. This medicine, what I am drinking, that is punar navā.
Śatadhanya: So tomorrow this one boy is going to Māyāpur, and he can bring that message. They can immediately send.
Prabhupāda: Yes. As much as possible. Then I can prepare this medicine. And I know that is the medicine for my disease, punar navā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How do you spell that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: P-u-n-a-r n-a-v-ā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I just have to see if my room is being flooded.
Śatadhanya: I'll go see.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Can you just check and have that boy start mopping? As soon as it... See, that's why they were banging yesterday. And they'll have to bang some more tomorrow. The room becomes flooded as soon as it rains, due to the faulty pipes.
Prabhupāda: Now rectify the fault.
Prabhupāda: So do it nicely so that in future it may not.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. It'll be a little banging. I told them tomorrow morning, when you're in massage, when you're in the garden, then they can do. I don't want them to do it while you're in this room. "Feeling a little satisfied that this school had been properly inoculated, I picked up my two bags and ran to the train station with great enthusiasm, because now I was going to meet Gurudāsa Goswami, who had come to Yugoslavia to join me. Not having the association of the devotees for many weeks...," all by himself, "...this thought of meeting..."
Prabhupāda: So try to engage Gurudāsa also as your cooperator. Yes.
Prabhupāda: No, no. No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Prabhupāda: You can... You are making that copies?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, tomorrow morning I'll have to get the copies...
Prabhupāda: So you can keep few copies more.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In case to give...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's a fact. We're all like that.
Mr. Myer: We want some quality of programs...
Prabhupāda: There is no problem. Now you manager... That means you have to...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So now it's on you, starting tomorrow, to show some something.
Mr. Myer: One thing, if I could just, Śrīla Prabhupāda, for initiation...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He wants to be initiated, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Mr. Myer: Then I could have your blessings to start the work.
Prabhupāda: Yes, you have all my blessings.
Prabhupāda: Therefore...
Mr. Myer: They think anything is possible, anything.(?) Do they not preach when they are congressmen? Tomorrow Congress is going to power. Then Janata comes to power. All the time they are changing, everyone. They just want personal gain at any cost.
Prabhupāda: That is why we say the stool, this side and that side... After all, it is stool. Somebody says, "This side is better than that side." Stool is stool when in this side or that side. That is going on.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Three hundred dacoits attacked our temple, and there was fighting, and five of the devotees were in the hospital. Bhavānanda Mahārāja, he was arrested 'cause he fired a gun. He shot two of them and put them in the hospital, so they arrested him. And that's all he told me. Three hundred dacoits attacked. He said Jayapatākā is now there. Jayapatākā wasn't there. He was traveling and preaching. So he's there now. He's sending a report to you, a more detailed report. And they want... Jayapatākā Mahārāja wants Śatadhanya Mahārāja to go immediately there because Bhavānanda is in jail, arrested. And they want Prabhāsa to come, because the gun, the gun that Bhavānanda Mahārāja used is in the name of Prabhāsa. And Gopāla Kṛṣṇa is going there tomorrow. He's also going there.
Prabhupāda: So why attacked?
Prabhupāda: You are leaving when?
Mr. Myer: Today evening. Tomorrow morning I'll return to Madras, leave the day after, morning, then come back next week.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: When will you be coming back?
Mr. Myer: Next week. Wednesday or Thursday.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. (break) Any intelligent person can understand this is all Communist propaganda. And the Central Government is seeking an opportunity to drive them away.
Prabhupāda: So give us little protection. That is my request.
Governor: We'll do it, no doubt. I'm meeting the Prime Minister tomorrow, and we are going to discuss that matter. This is my daughter. She stays in Delhi.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Thank you very much. She is married?
Prabhupāda: So when you think it will be suitable?
Governor: I am going tomorrow to Ahmedabad with our chief minister. He has come here. Ahmedabad I stay for four days. I go to Bombay. And from Bombay I'll be in Madras on 8th back. Then I am there.
Prabhupāda: Eighth, August. So we can if you think. So kindly submit my application to the Prime Minister.
Prabhupāda: But you can consider our situation, that such big, big establishment and Deity... Here is a big establishment. In Māyāpur there is Deity also. They are trained up. They are helping me. So kindly... At least we have submitted some list. So give them either permanent residence or citizenship. In America I have got permanent residency, so why not here? If there is no such arrangement, give them citizenship. They have nothing...
Governor: I am meeting the Home Minister tomorrow also. I will also talk to him, Charan Singh. The meeting is. He's mainly going.
Prabhupāda: Because every year I am losing five to six lakhs of rupees for their going, again coming. Just like he's acting my secretary. Now his visa is finished. He has to go, and again he has to come back. And that means ten thousand, more than ten thousand. So in this way so many workers are...
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Whatever everyone wanted, "All right, take it." Finish. I know. I am giving ten thousand more, fifteen thousand more. I didn't mind. "Take it and finish business tomorrow. Take it."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That man was surprised that you didn't bargain with him.
Prabhupāda: No. I simply asked, "Whether you are going to finish it tomorrow. So I have agreed to pay." He said, "Yes, I can." What is that?
Dhanañjaya: This is a Deity of yourself, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Prabhupāda: And there is sun? Sun also was there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The sunshine? There was sunshine when we arrived, but now it is cloudy and rain. I was wondering, Śrīla Prabhupāda, whether you would like for the kavirāja to be called. I was thinking he might be called tomorrow. Today no need for him to come. Better that you mostly relax today. I was thinking that as you said, better or worse, some husband must be there. (Prabhupāda laughs) So we should have some doctor. Is that all right? It's so nice to be with you when you are in Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: So you can do the needful.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes he likes to go out to collect for Them. Is that all right?
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So starting tomorrow, we will go in front of Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma for a half hour every day?
Prabhupāda: Or less time.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Or less time. As you feel comfortable.
Prabhupāda: Let us try.
Prabhupāda: No, the letter came so late?
Akṣayānanda: It came. The day it came, the bank was on strike. Next day we received notice you were coming, and we had to rush and get a chair for you and make arrangements. Unfortunately that was the only day I could not go there. It came late. First thing tomorrow, we'll go.
Prabhupāda: You have got that letter?
Prabhupāda: What is time now?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The time is about ten o'clock in the morning. I think tomorrow we can go to see the Deity, Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break) More swollen than I've seen it in months. Last night you said was havoc. Do you have any headache?
Prabhupāda: No, I don't have any...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Girirāja: They just confirmed that they transferred the two amounts, and they gave the date, and they gave that it's transferred to the Central Bank in Bombay and the account number.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They were very impressed with Girirāja. I mentioned to Mr. Gupta here that Girirāja's father was the biggest lawyer in Chicago. So they also felt that he was like a lawyer. So they were very impressed by him, and he was dealing with them in a very patient but intelligent way. So they just... Actually they realized more things today, I think, than ever before about the position of our society. They got a little bit more knowledge. And they also revealed more today about how they were thinking 'cause of the way Girirāja was talking with them. I think it was the most... It was a very progressive conversation. They are awaiting a telephone call that we would be going with them to Delhi tomorrow morning.
Prabhupāda: Wrote it?
Prabhupāda: Um hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. We'll have enough people here so that we can do it. We will start this tomorrow, Śrīla Prabhupāda, tomorrow morning, because it's difficult to arrange now. Most of the devotees have begun to take rest.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, it's something that she made for you. Should I bring it?
Prabhupāda: I shall see it tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. Anyway, all of the devotees all over the world are simply praying now. They have been placed into great transcendental anxiety, Śrīla Prabhupāda. They are simply praying for your recovery. Do you think that this powder has been successful, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Not yet.
Prabhupāda: No, we are taking the help of doctor, Āyurveda, by this yogendra-rasa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You are just beginning that now, of course. Tomorrow you might give it up. Then what will be our position?
Prabhupāda: Don't have widow.(?) (laughter) Kṛṣṇa is ultimate husband.
Prabhupāda: Critical days.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How many critical days. Today, tomorrow, and then on the eleventh, three days from today. Today, tomorrow, then one day is not so bad, and then the next day after that becomes bad again.
Prabhupāda: In this way how long prolong?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. (kīrtana starts-Govindam prayers)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I don't think you're feeling any pain. No. Are you thirsty at all? So today, tomorrow, those are critical days. And then one day lapse, and then another critical day. Generally the whole month is not very good, this month, next month, and one after, not very good. Of course, the best place to be is Vṛndāvana, and the best association is Kṛṣṇa's devotees, and you're under the protection of Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. So there can't really be anything inauspicious in such a situation. Śrīla Prabhupāda? We were noticing that your bed is facing... Your bed is facing more or less north. So we were wondering whether we should turn it to face east, which would be in the direction of the Deities, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. We could turn your bed just like this, as if we were turning you. We would keep you in the bed. We can pick up the bed and make it to face with your head towards Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma, which would be east. You have any objection? This is north.
Prabhupāda: There is no objection, but which is north?
Prabhupāda: Who comes to me.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Your Godbrother. Oh, you want to see him. Okay. I'll make sure that he comes. Śrīla Prabhupāda? You know how you were asking me about what those dates were? So I told you that today and tomorrow is difficult days. Then the day after that is not a difficult day, and it's also Govardhana-pūjā. Then the day after that becomes difficult again for one day. But the day in between, Govardhana-pūjā, is not considered to be a difficult day. (some discussion with Hari-śauri) It's the wrong date, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It's not Govardhana-pūjā . Our information was wrong. So we'll get Kṛṣṇa dāsa? Okay. (kīrtana starts) Śrīla Prabhupāda, have you been thinking about parikrama? (aside:) Let him chant.
Hari-śauri: Softly.
Prabhupāda: Do you think in this stage is it possible?
Prabhupāda: Do you think in this stage is it possible?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think it would be difficult. Better that we go parikraming around our temple, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Mandira. That's a little easier. Don't you think that's better? If you get a little stronger, then it may be possible. That will depend on Kṛṣṇa. So Kṛṣṇa dāsa, we should bring him here. Anyone else you want to see? Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja? Yes. We went to see him just to inquire about the necessary ceremony, and he gave us instruction. I sent Bhakti-caru Mahārāja and Bhakti-prema Mahārāja, and they wrote down everything. But Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja was very concerned. He said he's going to try to come to see you tomorrow. That's all right, isn't it? So Kṛṣṇa dāsa can be called for. Anytime? Okay. He stays at Rādhā-kuṇḍa? We'll inquire... Does he stay at the Gauḍīya Maṭha here?
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Prabhupāda: He can arrange.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja. Yes, actually he wanted to do that. He gave us instructions, but he also wanted to take part. So better I call Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja than Kṛṣṇa dāsa? Okay. I'll send a car for him tomorrow morning. He was saying he was thinking to come tomorrow, so I'll send a car and say "Prabhupāda requests if it's convenient that you can come this morning." That'll be all right? Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break)
Prabhupāda: When you have come back?
Prabhupāda: (Bengali conversation)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He wants to see a paṇḍitajī from there. So can you get that paṇḍitajī? You want to see him tonight, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) And Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja, he'll come tomorrow?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He'll come when we... Tonight could he come? You think that's too late?
Bhakti-caru: I think he'll come, if we go and pick him up.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If we pick him up, he might come tonight.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How the vaiśya community lives, how the different varṇas and āśramas function together, and what their responsibilities are to each other. We're trying to set up our Gītā-nagarī community based upon the teachings which you've given in your books. It is very enlivening and stimulating meeting. Dhṛṣṭadyumna Mahārāja will be coming tomorrow with his brother. And he has designed the very ideal plan for all of the varṇas and āśramas to live together.
Prabhupāda: Hm. Do it.
Jayatīrtha: This is the world's record for the most books ever distributed by any temple any week in history. But this week Bhagavān has sworn he'd beat it. That's why he hasn't come yet. He'll be here tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhagavān is personally staying there to make sure his zone beat Jayatīrtha's zone. And only after he's achieved victory, then he's going to come and see you.
Prabhupāda: Vedic civilization is sarve sukhino bhavantu: "Everyone be happy." This is Vedic civilization. And this is the way, Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission. The same house?
Dr. Kapoor: Oh. You should keep lying. Don't sit for long.
Prabhupāda: Today is also critical day?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Today is supposed to be not critical. Tomorrow is said to be critical day.
Prabhupāda: Kapoorji is bringing one retired vaidya. (Bengali)
Prabhupāda: No. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī will give them blessing. He'll delay.(?) He wanted this.
Bhagavān: When the book distribution is going on so strongly, everything is remaining very pure. It is taking away all inauspicious elements.
Prabhupāda: Thank you. (break) You can note down from him the crisis day.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want me to get those dates? Tomorrow is one of them.
Prabhupāda: There are so many.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Others come at the end of this month. I'll give him the dates. Tomorrow is the first one.
Prabhupāda: I think every day is crisis. (laughs) Things becoming bad.
Prabhupāda: ...they will appreciate tomorrow.
Yaśodā-nandana: Yes. I'm training the boys. There's three boys I'm training especially in the morning. Dvārakādhīśa, Ekendra and Kātyāyana. I'm training to chant the Brahma-saṁhitā and Bhagavad-gītā every day. Tomorrow we have arranged that for the beginning of the conference the boys will chant namaḥ oṁ viṣṇu-pādāya, namaste narasiṁhāya, namo mahā-vadānyāya, namo brahmaṇya-devāya, and four verses from Brahma-saṁhitā, tomorrow at ten-thirty. And every day I'm training some of these boys to chant Brahma-saṁhitā and Bhagavad-gītā. Is that all right, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Some very important men was to come this evening?
Haṁsadūta: An important man was to come this evening? You mean for the conference, Śrīla Prabhupāda? I don't think any men have come yet, Prabhupāda. Svarūpa Dāmodara is here, but I think they're planning to come tomorrow and the following days.
Paramānanda: We're very much encouraged how it's working out. We've been discussing it for many hours here, and it seems like it's going to work out very nicely.
Prabhupāda: The program is there. If you follow, immediately success. You are leaving?
Paramānanda: Tomorrow morning.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Vāmanadeva is going to go to Māyāpur before he goes back to America. He's going to go to Māyāpur for a week or so with his family.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That much we want to keep. The people may not think of it as bogus.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Our chief guest for tomorrow has already arrived. And he's very impressed. I took a tour of our temples, also the Gurukula. And they're very impressed with the whole building and the whole program that we have here. Very nice. He brought also an architect. He's a retired engineer, Chowdury from..., together. Also we already have a mathematician from Delhi University for tomorrow. So I took three of them tour of our temple and gave them nice prasādam. They were very impressed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This has never happened before, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You are the real ācārya for this age, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You perfectly know how to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness. You're making people who would ordinarily never take interest in Kṛṣṇa consciousness become devotees.
Prabhupāda: In the beginning, when I was selling Back to Godhead alone, I wrote one practical businessman, Mr. Bande(?) I think. He said, "Swamiji, why you have made Vṛndāvana headquarter? (laughs) It is not a place for..." (break)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: ...place in Vṛndāvana, they said the selection is ideal. So this type of conference should start from Vṛndāvana. They feel that way, many of them. Yesterday Mishra, Dr. Mishra... He's the head of the biophysics department in the All-India Institute, Medical Sciences. He called me to his home, and I went and we had about half an hour discussion. He told me that he wanted to do this by himself for a long time several years ago. Then somehow, when he saw our flyer, his wife told him that "You've been trying to do like this for so many years, but somebody has started doing it." So she told him "You must join them." So actually he wanted to come from tomorrow, but some people are coming from Germany, 'cause he has a big grant. He's actually internationally well known scientist. But he's coming on Sunday, and he's also going to speak about half an hour.
Prabhupāda: They danced. (laughter) With coat-pant. I have seen.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Especially there's one Dr. Murti. He's the professor of chemistry, Delhi University. He told me that Prabhupāda is a very good speaker. He said he heard Swamiji's lectures. He said, "Very good speaker." And he's coming early in the morning tomorrow. Whole chemistry group are coming from Delhi University.
Prabhupāda: What is the time?
Prabhupāda: Let me taste the tablet. (break) (Bengali) (break) Go on, kīrtana. (break) What news?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The guests will start coming tomorrow. Mr. Prem Kripal, who is the ex-president of the executive board, UNESCO, he's going to be our chief guest tomorrow. He's going to inaugurate the conference. He'll be arriving about five o'clock this evening. He told me he's coming with one of his friends who's also a retired architect. There's also a very well known architect who's coming with him this evening. He's going to speak on what is life and its purpose about twenty minutes. Then the other scholars will start arriving tomorrow, and Sunday everybody's coming. On Sunday there will be many medical doctors... Khorana is one of our life members, Dr. Khorana from Delhi. He's bringing several of his friends. Also I'm expecting some doctors from Agra. One... I don't recall his name, but he's also our life member. Everybody says that we have chosen the right place to have a conference. There's one Dr. Miśra, he wanted to come tomorrow. Also I actually requested him to become the chief guest, but he cannot come tomorrow, but he's coming on Sunday. And also he's speaking. So there are about five or six people from outside that are speaking on different aspects of the conference regarding life. There's one Dr. Bhud.(?) He's one of the philosophers from Delhi University. He's speaking on..., called philosophical foundations of life. He told me he studied a great deal about Rāmānuja. Also, he said, previously he studied in Bon Mahārāja's institute about ten years ago something about Vaiṣṇava philosophy. And now he's a reader in philosophy department in Delhi. He's going to speak something on the philosophical aspects of life. So we expect some good crowd from the scholars, mostly scientists from physics, from chemistry, mathematics and biology. And I found that most of them are very interested, and almost everybody wanted to come unless they had some engagement before. Everybody was very positive on our approach. In fact they encouraged us a lot, and they told us that's unique-trying to understand the concept of life from religious point of view connected with modern science. And many Bengalis are also coming.
Prabhupāda: Scholar?
Prabhupāda: They cannot come for three days. Eh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Many are coming for three days, except a few. From Agra I expect about fifty, and from Mathurā there will be about fifteen to twenty, and from Delhi I expect about thirty for tomorrow. Then, on Saturday, Sunday... Sunday is going to be... Everybody's coming on Sunday, whomever I invited. Because in Delhi, schools and colleges are still going on.
Prabhupāda: Fifty, fifty.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Upendra: Let me look at today's program. Yes. At 8:30, just now, films. And then tomorrow also at 8:30, films and slides. (break) Whatever you say, Śrīla Prabhupāda, is being recorded, and then Tamāla Kṛṣṇa and Hari-śauri, they're all busy copying down, rewriting into their diaries, 'cause your words are so nectarine. And then all the devotees are anxious to hear. So then they copy down from them. It's like a little press, already. Bhakti-caru, if you speak in Bengali, then Bhakti-caru translates.
Prabhupāda: Where is Tamāla?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I don't know. There must be somewhere between fifty and a hundred. Today is a working day. It's Friday. Tomorrow and Sunday everyone is going to come. Everyone wants to come. They consider it prestigious to come here, because the whole thing is being done on an international level.
Prabhupāda: Svarūpa Dāmodara...
Prabhupāda: So I am thinking now to lay down. (break) Meeting is going on here, and you have gone to Bhagatji?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I haven't gone yet. I was in the conference for a little while. The scientists took prasādam at about 11:30. The conference was supposed to start at ten, but it didn't start till about nearly noon. And at the same time, Bhagatji has apparently arranged a program of prasādam and kīrtana at his house, and it was to be the same time when ordinarily the conference would have halted for lunch. So as the conference began two hours late, now that has upset things a little. Not very much. I was in the conference for a while and all the guests are there, scientists are there. Svarūpa Dāmodara Prabhu is giving a lecture. There weren't very many GBC or sannyāsīs there, but I think it was on account of the fact that the conference started so late today. There is another conference this afternoon, as far as I know. And then two more tomorrow and again the next day, and I'm pretty sure everybody will be attending. I found it very interesting. The only reason I left was that I wanted to know whether I should attend Bhagatji's lunch or not. He invited everyone and made big arrangement. But I'm your secretary, so I don't want to go unless it's proper to go.
Prabhupāda: How you have accepted invitation today?
Prabhupāda: So? How things are going on?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Things are going nicely, though we didn't have too many guests today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. A little more than fifty came. Most of them will be coming tomorrow, and Sunday will be all full. 'Cause today is still Friday, and in Delhi all the schools are still open. But we came, quite a few interesting scientists from Delhi. And one had only one question. Otherwise nobody had anything. I spoke for about two hours on the difference between life and matter, and we showed that the science, modern science, actually does not study life.
Prabhupāda: ...let me pass. (pause)
Hari-śauri: If you're here with us, then that's all we need. Then we can go out and do anything.
Prabhupāda: Tomorrow shall I take the risk of taking little milk?
Hari-śauri: Generally when you take milk it causes lot of difficulty with mucus. This sweet lime juice, that seems to be doing some good, though. Perhaps it might be better not to take the milk for a little while until your system becomes more healthy.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Five reporters. Also from All-India Radio they came.
Jñāna: They're coming again on Sunday.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. And the press people are coming tomorrow also, day after tomorrow. So we'll try to summarize what we have studied today and try to print it nicely in the newspapers. I requested them that this is a great responsibility for the newsmen to do this genuine scientific propaganda. So I requested them they should cooperate with us. They said that they will do it. I also requested the members of the delegate to kindly attend our temple functions. Right now I think they are in the ārati, sandhyā-ārati.
Prabhupāda: Hm. So let them.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. We had nice prasādam.
Bhāgavata: And everyone is very pleased and satisfied with the prasādam. (break)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I think about forty. Forty people. Today it will come more. Then Dr. Khorana is coming tomorrow. He's a medical doctor. He's bringing several of his friends. He's also our life member.
Abhirāma: His son is a devotee. Śrīla Prabhupāda knows him, Navīna Kṛṣṇa.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Navīna Kṛṣṇa. He's in Detroit. After the conference, I'm going to have a debate in Delhi, round-table conference with Dr. Kotari, D. S. Kotari and his group.
Prabhupāda: That will be very nice.
Prabhupāda: Niyamāgraha. (laughter) Do everything very carefully. You were present in the conference?
Girirāja: Well, actually I wasn't, because I wasn't feeling too well this morning. But tomorrow I want to be present.
Prabhupāda: I don't see Brahmānanda?
Prabhupāda: Ba... No more want.
Abhirāma: It wasn't good?
Prabhupāda: Not bad. We shall see tomorrow. Give me little water. And with some wet handkerchief...
Abhirāma: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: In this way let us pull on. Fight between māyā. Sit up for while and chant beads.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Trying. So at night there is no need of giving juice. Tomorrow. Eh?
Upendra: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. No. Tomorrow. Fruit juice at night is not good.
Prabhupāda: No. People are appreciating our movement?
Prabhupāda: It is going to be due within fortnight.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: First thing that has... Prabhupāda, one thing is that this power of attorney is to Girirāja and myself. So, one thing Girirāja is doing when he-he's reaching Bombay tomorrow—is that the power of attorney doesn't show our authorized signatures. In other words, a notary has to notarize our signatures, that these are actually the signatures.
Prabhupāda: What is date today?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Today is the 25th. It's an inauspicious day. So it's the proper day to begin taking it.
Prabhupāda: So let us begin tomorrow morning.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Begin tomorrow morning, on an auspicious day.
Prabhupāda: Ha.
Pañca-draviḍa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: All right.
Pañca-draviḍa: If something's auspicious, why wait for tomorrow?
Prabhupāda: So?
Bhakti-caru: Here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Bhakti-caru...
Prabhupāda: Haṁsadūta?
Hari-śauri: Haṁsadūta Mahārāja?
Haṁsadūta: Yes, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: From tomorrow, you sit me down in that palanquin, and, with devotees, let me have parikrama, temple.
Haṁsadūta: Tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Round the temple.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotees: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Today is also pūrṇimā, Mahārāja?
Hari-śauri: Today is Rāsa-pūrṇimā.
Pañca-draviḍa: And tomorrow begins Kārttika.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So Kārttika is the proper time for parikrama.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Tell the... (break) So my suggestion for parikrama last night...
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Is successful.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Because it's reacting differently.
Bhavānanda: We're saying, though, that it may not be the medicine. It may be at the same time that you took the medicine you also starting taking this fruit juice, new fruit juice, melon, which is known for causing a diuretic effect. So it may be that. We're suggesting that not to give that Persian melon juice. Tomorrow morning take makara-dhvaja again and see what happens then.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Bhakti-caru: Can I see it in the light, please?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One hundred cc's, Śrīla Prabhupāda, and clear. So urine is normal amount. Try to take a little bit to eat tonight, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: I'll try.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. And we won't give any medicine tonight. Tomorrow morning we're giving it. Okay?
Bhakti-caru: Even the swelling is down.
Prabhupāda: It is giving pain.(?)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're just getting some round pillows from upstairs. That will be very good. They'll be here in a minute, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Bharadvāja: Śrīla Prabhupāda? If you want, you can lean back. I'm holding the pillows in the back. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...reported.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You can take it home with you. Bring it back tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: You purchase few copies more. It is very important.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. This is a photocopy. I can get photocopies made. That will be easier probably than getting back issue. And cheaper too.
Prabhupāda: That kavirāja did not come?
Upendra: What happened? No one knows. They left. They say he left Calcutta at twelve o'clock flight.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I could have gone to the airport. Maybe they are coming tomorrow on the train, Taj Express?
Upendra: No, by air they came.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No, from Delhi. I thought that maybe he didn't know that, Adri...? If it starts from Calcutta at twelve o'clock, it should be arriving at Delhi about two o'clock.
Upendra: Then let's say one hour, then three to here.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: There's a train at five o'clock that I came by, train, five o'clock. It's a very good train. Maybe they didn't know that train. It starts from Nizammudin Station. So if they're planning to come by train tomorrow, the Taj Express is at seven o'clock in the morning, arriving Mathurā at nine o'clock.
Upendra: Someone could call Delhi.
Prabhupāda: I don't think so.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean verbal agreement is enough, isn't it, in dealing with him? I would think so. I mean I thought it was sufficient if he agrees verbally. No contract or loan agreement. He wants to pay this money back by April. I didn't tell him he had to. I told him it was a donation. He seems to want to pay it back. So let him if he wants to. Then he wanted me to arrange, so I'm sending... I gave the receipts to him as you saw. I'm sending the letter... I'm sending a man to Delhi tomorrow to get a ticket for him, airline ticket.
Prabhupāda: Where he is?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Simply, one after another, frustration.(?)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. First we had that Madhva..., not Madhva. Rāmānujī came from Śrī Raṅgajī temple, and he seemed to be a cheater. Then this one... We got this medicine from that śakta-kavirāja, and that medicine turned out to be poison. And now this kavirāja who's supposed to be coming from Calcutta, it's become a mystery where he is. The temple was called, and they said that they've left. They called twice to Calcutta, and they said they've left, and yet he's not here. I don't know what to make of it. Very puzzling situation. I think that if by tomorrow noon they have not arrived, then Śatadhanya can go to Calcutta to bring them. If they're going to arrive, they'd arrive by tomorrow noon.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, at the latest.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: At the latest absolutely. I mean, to me, for them to arrive by tomorrow noon is not... From the very beginning I would not have felt it was out of the ordinary.
Prabhupāda: They said they have left!
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Better that you don't drink any more tonight, Śrīla Prabhupāda, except a little bit of miśri-jala or some little bit. Then by tomorrow you should be more normal again. Anyway, our activities are going on—parikrama, kīrtana, Bhāgavatam.
Prabhupāda: Can I go to Calcutta?
Prabhupāda: Who is he?
Śatadhanya: That's Haṁsadūta.
Mādhava: We can begin the bath now, Śrīla Prabhupāda? (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...tomorrow probably. (indistinct) ...loan... Actually we're not loaning him that money. That money is being given as a gift to him. He was willing to pay it back. I said, no, this is a gift from you to him for improving his business. I said actually it's meant for each of the family members. I told him, "You use it now for improving your business.
Prabhupāda: Guide them.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. They are simple people. That's the feeling I got today. So I'll pay him whatever he expended for coming here plus his airfare to go back to Calcutta. And probably I'll suggest that he leave tomorrow. He wanted to spend more time, but I told him that "Now you should do this business and don't delay now. This is not the time to take extra time. You can come back later on." Pisimā's son's name is Chandra? Hm. Bhakti-caru has his address. Is the diarrhea more or less stopped now?
Upendra: He hasn't...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Of its sitting here.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, I can give him just now. Shall I bring? I have it in my almirah. I was going to give it to him tomorrow after I showed him the letter and explained everything. I've dictated a letter.
Prabhupāda: And if he has got business, why he should remain here?
Prabhupāda: He wants to return as quickly as possible.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I personally felt you could go tomorrow even, 'cause I thought that you could actually... I think the earlier you get back to Calcutta the better. But his idea was to leave Sunday, I think.
Vrindavan De: Sunday, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Today is Friday. So he wanted to leave the day after tomorrow. Otherwise everything is ready for him to go whenever he wants it.
Vrindavan De: (Bengali)
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Where is the certificates?
Prabhupāda: Very first class place.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It is first class. There's no doubt about it. I also got him a plane ticket. I sent a man to Delhi today, and we got the reservation. So he'll be leaving Vṛndāvana tomorrow morning at about 9:30, 9:00-9:30. So I told him that he should come and see you. He'll come in the morning to see you. He was... A couple of time you were sleeping today, so he could not come. Otherwise he was wanting to come.
Prabhupāda: So you guide him with his...
Prabhupāda: No, if we have program to go to Māyāpur, he has got that distilled medicine in his dispensary.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but one thing is this: the more time we can gain in waiting here, the better. In other words, he's not going to stay here indefinitely. That's a fact. He's going to have to go within the next few days.
Adri-dhāraṇa: He's planning to leave tomorrow. But we can hold him off for two more days.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We can hold him because, no doubt about it, the few extra days we gain will give you a little added strength. The main thing is that you should be feeling some positive effect from his treatments, because ultimately that is the real deciding factor. Our opinion of him.... He may be very nice looking, but if the medicine works, that is what counts.
Bhavānanda: Of course, we don't know, but we're all feeling that you're feeling some effect. You told me the other night.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So stop it all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I talked with him in a nice way though. I said, "Now you tell me, Vrindavan." I gave him the points. I said, "So you think about it tonight and you let me know tomorrow." I'm talking in a nice way with him because I feel that in... I want them to be happy. I can see they're not so intelligent so they should not...
Prabhupāda: At least five thousand rupees business must be given otherwise... That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...request him that "Since you feel that it is very important that Prabhupāda get a little more strength, you kindly wait about two more days, and let us go like that." In other words, we're not overly eager to leave tomorrow. If the kavirāja were willing to stay here for ten days more, we'd be very happy, and then after ten days we'd go with him.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says that due to climatic condition, what would take ten days to cure here will take twenty days to thirty days in Māyāpur. The climate is not... (Kavirāja—Hindi) But the real issue is this. The real issue is that although we were sitting here in the best climate, Prabhupāda was getting worse until he came. So the real point is not the climate but the doctor. (Bhakti-caru translates—kavirāja, Hindi—laughter)
Prabhupāda: So you (Hindi) arrange tomorrow?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Bhakti-caru: Tomorrow or day after, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It may be better the day after if you give us one extra day for booking. I don't know if we can get that many seats. We leave the day after tomorrow morning? Okay. So we'll arrange the seats. You want to show that urine color? You have some sample you kept?
Prabhupāda: Twenty-five.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Twenty-five. Okay. Remember that Gītā Pratiṣṭhāna conference? So it's starting tomorrow. I just happened to notice Mr. Rāma-Kṛṣṇa Bajaj is here and Śrīmān Nārāyaṇa is here. So probably tomorrow they'll want to come and see you.
Prabhupāda: Where they are beginning?
Prabhupāda: You give him the scheme and ask him if he wants to discuss this with me.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. But I won't have the amendment to the scheme until tomorrow night.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Amendment you can give later on. You can give the scheme.
Prabhupāda: So that will be three.
Brahmānanda: Yes. Of the three, Mr. Nārāyaṇa is very favorable to us. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Goswami was noticing it. He preached to him about two or three years ago. At that time he was chief minister for Gujarat, governor.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? I want to suggest that you should not talk too much, because the doctor said conserve yourself. (indistinct) Because tomorrow we're going to be leaving at about two o'clock, two or two-thirty, so you won't get a full night's rest.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You are the most important (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: Bon Mahārāja you did not see?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Brahmānanda: He's meeting with the Prime Minister tomorrow. Nārāyaṇa is having a meeting tomorrow with the Prime Minister and Defense Minister at the Gandhi Memorial Society.
Prabhupāda: Where?
Prabhupāda: So, that legal business?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Girirāja has gone into Mathurā to meet with Mr. Garg to just see that all of the drafts are in order, if everything is in order. Then hopefully tomorrow we can finish it all.
Prabhupāda: So it was argument, not that we have rejected. Upāyān cintayet prajñāḥ...
Prabhupāda: (Bengali or Hindi conversation with Indian man)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tomorrow Svarūpa Dāmodara is giving a lecture in Agra, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Indian man: In Agra? In some university?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Agra.
Indian man: Good.
Prabhupāda: Agra, which?
Prabhupāda: Who will be president?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who will be president? Of the institute, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: No, tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who will be present? President of the meeting?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, it's arranged by the head of the chemistry department. There's one professor called Gupta. He's very enthusiastic. And there are also several professors who came to our conference. All of them are arranging together. There's one Dr. Sukla, also there's one Dr. Sharma. Three, four of them are organizing the lecture. They have... Most of the people I found there, they have great respect for ISKCON, and they appreciate Śrīla Prabhupāda's activities so much. I also requested them it is their responsibility to actually try to spread the genuine knowledge as a real science, scientists.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Stories and fables will not convince them.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I want to briefly outline tomorrow the comparative presentation of two aspects of modern science versus the Bhagavad-gītā, the varying concepts of life.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Prabhupāda: No, no, he's sincere. I'll drink milk. Whatever strength is obtainable, there will be.
Jayapatākā: Like to follow the same treatment, only while traveling.
Haṁsadūta: So we should meet and make a program for going around Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Haṁsadūta: You want to begin tomorrow morning?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jagadīśa: Prasādam has been saved for the devotees that are here.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Three o'clock we'll meet. So we'll have our meeting, Śrīla Prabhupāda, with Lokanātha also present.
Jagadīśa: Satsvarūpa also.
Prabhupāda: Four o'clock.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hm? Yes. And then we'll begin tomorrow. Is that soon enough?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Should we depart for taking prasādam now, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So? Where did you go?
Lokanātha: I went to Mathurā. I went first to Vṛndāvana and looked for the carts. They were not very good kind. They were made for rough loads. So I went to Mathurā and spoke to one farmer. He had a fairly big size cart and two strong bullocks, and he asked for a hundred rupees. He wouldn't come down. So ultimately I agreed for a hundred rupees. And he will reach tonight at eleven o'clock. I asked him to start immediately, but they have pūjā—as we have go-pūjā, they also have oxen pūjā today—so he will only reach at eleven o'clock, and he will be with us all day long tomorrow. I had to give him one day or maximum...
Prabhupāda: So what do you think?
Lokanātha: Of what?
Prabhupāda: Our experiment...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It certainly is an experiment. Of course, we always like experiments to be successful.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Where he'll go?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Where will we go? We thought tomorrow to go around the parikrama path.
Prabhupāda: Which parikrama path?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Vṛndāvana parikrama.
Lokanātha: Does a cart go?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I've never tried it with a cart. Smara-hari, you say a cart couldn't go?
Lokanātha: No, he says it cannot go.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Lokanātha: Those are seven temples.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, another possibility is to go to the places where the main temples are, Śrīla Prabhupāda, the Gosvāmīs' temples.
Haṁsadūta: Tomorrow is Govardhana-pūjā, and a procession through the city of Vṛndāvana would be very ecstatic.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I sent you. You have got already experience.
Lokanātha: You said you want to make an experiment, so let us make an experiment with this hired bullock cart, and in few days' time...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So where will we go tomorrow if we go?
Prabhupāda: Govardhana?
Prabhupāda: One-day experiment. It is for one day?
Lokanātha: We have hired it for one day.
Prabhupāda: Rest assured. I will not die in one day.
Haṁsadūta: So we should go to Govardhana? Because tomorrow is Govardhana-pūjā.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And we shall make our cooking there and...
Lokanātha: We should start early.
Prabhupāda: He has got experience. Dig the ground and make our foodstuff. Very good picnic.
Prabhupāda: That will be very nice.
Guṇārṇava: There are already many thousands and thousands of people there, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Perhaps it will take a long time to get there because of traffic. I was in Mathurā today. Every ten minutes buses and ṭāṅgās and so many kinds of vehicles were going to Govardhana. There are many, many thousands of people there today.
Pañca-draviḍa: Besides that, the devotees would have to walk nine hours in the sun.
Guṇārṇava: Perhaps the road will be very busy tomorrow, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Whew!
Haṁsadūta: Can't walk?
Prabhupāda: No, let them take their time. They do that. It is very nice picnic.
Lokanātha: Another tīrtha.
Pañca-draviḍa: Yes. Prabhupāda will go to the tīrtha.
Jagadīśa: You're a Vaiṣṇava like Arjuna and Hanumān, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Tomorrow is a great festival.
Lokanātha: Tomorrow is Govardhana-pūjā festival.
Prabhupāda: Yes. We are in Vṛndāvana, and we shall not take part? We must take part.
Jayapatākā: It will be historic. Many people have been invited to the temple here. Many people have been invited to attend the function here at the mandira.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Thousands of people are expected to come tomorrow.
Pañca-draviḍa: That can also go on.
Prabhupāda: When they have invited?
Prabhupāda: When?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "What time?" he's asking.
Bhavānanda: At 11 a.m.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: At around noontime, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: There's a big feast at one o'clock.
Prabhupāda: So half of our men may come back.
Haṁsadūta: Bring it along.
Pañca-draviḍa: We'll bring it along. (discussion of how to do this)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So when we'll come back from Govardhana?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Tomorrow night.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So after circumambulating Govardhana, we will return to Vṛndāvana or stay out?
Prabhupāda: What do you think?
Pañca-draviḍa: Maybe we could stay overnight.
Lokanātha: When we are there, out, we'll decide.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: He can't come back tomorrow night.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's helpful for the devotees to know, just so they can bring something to wrap around when it gets to be nighttime. It's not the middle of the summer, you know. It is...
Prabhupāda: To request not to go?
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, Śrīla Prabhupāda, I'll tell you, I'm getting so upset sitting in the room upstairs. I mean I just... I was walking around... Two of the devotees told me this road is so bad that if you go on this road, you're going to be jolted back and forth. The road is terrible. I just can't understand, Śrīla Prabhupāda, why it has to be tomorrow that we have to go. If anybody wants you to travel, I do. My whole desire is to take you all over the world. I want to take you on parikrama, but why do we have to go when you're in this condition? I can't understand it. It just... I was standing outside. This kavirāja, he has worked so hard. He's so much disappointed. He can't understand why he... He says that now, today, you've taken half a kilo of milk. No mucus has is being produced. No stool is being passed. He says tomorrow he wants to give you a medicine that will begin to build the milk into muscles. He's going to get you to a point where you can take two kilos of milk a day. And he says very soon you'll be able to have the strength to actually do parikrama. So why are we throwing everything out the window, that we must go tomorrow? I cannot understand.
Prabhupāda: All right.
Prabhupāda: So many well-wishers, I cannot refuse. This is not my business. (Bengali) All right. You take Bābājī Mahārāja. That will be my going. (laughter)
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Jaya.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, the bullock cart will go tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...days till you get a little more strength. I mean this is a very good sign Śrīla Prabhupāda. You've taken a half a kilo of milk. No mucus, no stool. If you get a few days of strength... I mean I have no objection even tomorrow to take you. I just would like to hear what the kavirāja... I really have a little faith in him. I mean I have all faith on you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I have only a little faith in him, but I don't want to reject his advice as a doctor. This kavirāja is giving sound advice so far.
Prabhupāda: Where he is?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're just trying to get him here. He went out again to get some more medicine for you. He says now that he's seen that you took this half kilo of milk he's going to start to give a medicine that will make this milk make muscles on your body, because all the muscles have become finished, slackened. So he wants to do that so that you'll then have strength. Parikramming the temple is not so bad. Let's just see what he says. It's certainly not that difficult. The main thing is, you have to be able to sit up for some time. (aside:) Prabhupāda wants to become enlivened spiritually, you know, by some spiritual activity. (to Prabhupāda:) We'll ask the kavirāja if he thinks we can take you tomorrow for a short parikrama around the temple, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What time is good, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Ten o'clock?
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Tomorrow there is function.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, tomorrow's function. Day after tomorrow?
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ha, day after tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tomorrow is no good?
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Day after tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What time is convenient?
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Every time.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: For you, Śrīla Prabhupāda, any time is convenient.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Day or night is the same for you now.
Prabhupāda: So day after tomorrow.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We'll send our car?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The evening.
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: The evening on Saturday, er, Sunday.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: On Sunday in the evening.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sunday evening. That means tomorrow.
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: No. Day after tomorrow.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Tomorrow is Saturday.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tomorrow is Saturday. Day after tomorrow. Tomorrow is Saturday?
Prabhupāda: So you'll stay there.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Tomorrow is Saturday.
Prabhupāda: And they will send car.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. So day after tomorrow, evening. What time?
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Evening, any time is good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Six o'clock. You tell Bon Mahārāja, say, at... We will pick you up earlier.
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: No, I'll come to Bon Mahārāja's.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ācchā. Then five-thirty.
| Page Title: | Tomorrow (Conv. 1977) |
| Compiler: | Visnu Murti, JayaNitaiGaura |
| Created: | 25 of Jun, 2011 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=186, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 186 |